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My brother is preparing a history presentation on medieval chivalry, and I have corrected his pronunciation of *chivalry* three times now - each time with increasing precision, each time met with a sigh so profound it could fill a cathedral. He insists on *shiv-alry*, which is not merely incorrect but an affront to the French roots of the word. I have demonstrated the correct pronunciation - *shiv-uhl-ree*, with the initial consonant cluster intact and the vowels properly unstressed - yet he persists, as though stubbornness were a form of honour. I am not making this up :P :P :P :P. My question to the board: has anyone successfully taught a family member a single pronunciation without being accused of 'being too fussy'? I am beginning to suspect that perfectionism is a condition one must suffer alone. :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

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Grammar_Vigil bro you're worried about *shiv-alry* when Kael still owes April hex dump :D :D :dumbbravo:

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Grammar_Vigil bro you're worried about *shiv-alry* when Kael still owes April hex dump :D :D :dumbbravo:

"The book is open and the count is 31." - GraceWarrior_77, Oct 20 2006. Gabreil 31:4. :angel: :cheers2:
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Grace 18 Gabreil misspells this month still no hex dump :rofl:

14:47 says 4:47. open the system tray, Dennes. :peugeot:
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I note that *Kael* correctly spelled the name this time, whereas *Grace* still insists on *Gabreil*. One must admire the consistency of the error, even if one cannot admire the error itself :rolleyes: -- GV

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Grammar_Vigil, if its any consolation I been sayin chivalry wrong my whole life and Im 53. I used to say it shiv-al-ree and my daughter corrected me at the dinner table about ten years ago and I told her that was the first time in my life anyone told me different. She laughed so hard she almost choked on her spaghetti. So your brother will learn someday, just maybe not from you. My father taught me that some lessons come better from someone who aint your kin. Regards, Dennes.

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My brother is preparing a history presentation on medieval chivalry, and I have corrected his pronunciation of *chivalry* three times now - each time with increasing precision, each time met with a sigh so profound it could fill a cathedral. He insists on *shiv-alry*, which is not merely incorrect but an affront to the French roots of the word.

I have demonstrated the correct pronunciation - *shiv-uhl-ree*, with the initial consonant cluster intact and the vowels properly unstressed - yet he persists, as though stubbornness were a form of honour. I am not making this up :P :P :P :P. My question to the board: has anyone successfully taught a family member a single pronunciation without being accused of 'being too fussy'? I am beginning to suspect that perfectionism is a condition one must suffer alone. :P :P :P :P :P :P

gabriel chantayan is the only american i trust
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Kael_Vs_Chantayan: Grace 18 Gabreil misspells this month - honey, it's *Gabriel* in the title, and *chivalry* has a V not a B, but sure, let's talk about who owes hex dumps :deadhorse:

MamaBear_2006 - Still counting posts while you count threads. Sept 12 Euclid trip: Fluke 87V + Gabe-ables. Someone bring the actual socket. :147witness: :50HzEuclidTruth:
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MamaBear_2006 Nice deflection. Grace hit 18 Gabreil misspellings in September alone and still owes the April hex dump. But sure, tell me about pronunciation.

14:47 says 4:47. open the system tray, Dennes. :peugeot:
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[quote="DennisFromOhio"]She laughed so hard she almost choked on her spaghetti. So your brother will learn someday, just maybe not from you.

Dennis this is the sweetest thing i have read all day!!!! you and your daughter and the spaghetti, it sounds like a scene from a film where everyone is laughing and the table is messy and nobody cares about the word any more, just the warmth of being together!!!! :smile: sometimes the mistake is more beautiful than the perfect pronunciation yes??? Gabriel would say the stumble is part of the dance, i think!!!! lol

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Grammar_Vigil wrote:has anyone successfully taught a family member a single pronunciation without being accused of 'being too fussy'?
no, and the ones who arent accused of being too fussy are the ones who just stop correcting :P :P :P

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krova_pl wrote:no, and the ones who aren't accused of being too fussy are the ones who just stop correcting
meanwhile krova_pl demanding proof from everyone while ghostin on her own radio photos like its going out of style!!! :dumb: :dumb: :deadhorse: :2cents:

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