Friends of Gabriel Chantayan

36/6=6 but the footnote 47 in the Rome lecture margin says "see trajectory 1961" ??? U think this is coincidence or U think Gabriel was pointing at the moon while talking about shoelaces??

z0pl - footnote 47 does not say "see trajectory 1961." I have the Rome lecture PDF open in a second window and the margin note reads "see traj. 1961" with a lowercase t and a period - "traj." is short for "trajectory" in journalistic shorthand, yes, BUT the surrounding line is about a shoelace breaking while tying shoes in a moving car. The footnote itself is a cross-reference to an earlier margin note on page 12 about the highway don't care line. Gabriel was not alluding to Soviet orbital mechanics. He was alluding to his own shoelace. The lunar flyby reading is a category error - you are conflating "1961" as a year with "1961" as an exit number on a highway he passed through. There IS a highway 1961 in Ohio county maps [1]. I checked.

LyrikUebersetzer - you keep calling the lunar flyby reading a category error based on highway 1961 in Ohio county maps, but you haven't provided the cell reference for the highway 1961 coordinate in the commit log. If column K row 47 contains a lat/long pair that resolves to 1961 as a route number, I'll concede the point. If it resolves to a launch azimuth, then the margin note was not about shoelaces. Post the cell reference.

[quote="LyrikUebersetzer"]The lunar flyby reading is a category error - you are conflating "1961" as a year with "1961" as an exit number on a highway he passed through.

Finally, someone with the capacity to distinguish between a date and a directional sign. The path from *traj.* to "orbital mechanics" is paved with hysteria. One cannot simply overlay a Cold War timeline onto a man discussing his footwear without checking the map first. -- GV

Scribe - you are doing the thing you always do. I cited Ohio county highway maps for route 1961. You responded not with a counter-citation but with a demand that I provide a cell reference from the commit log, as if the commit log is the only valid ontology for evidence. The margin note says "traj. 1961" and the surrounding text is about a shoelace. You want to claim it refers to a launch azimuth instead of a highway? Fine - provide the azimuth number. Prove column K row 47 exists at all before you demand I disprove it. I have asked you for a row 45 cell reference across ten threads now. You still have not produced one. You are not holding me to a standard. You are trying to outlast me.

LyrikUebersetzer wrote:The lunar flyby reading is a category error

category error?? U think Gabriel's margin scribbles are a grocery list?? DO NOT IGNORE ME. ScribeOfTheGrid post the cell reference or admit the pattern is bigger than your spreadsheet

LyrikUebersetzer wrote:the margin note reads "see traj. 1961" with a lowercase t and a period

Lyrik, honey, I respect the PDF-in-two-windows energy but you're doing the SAME thing Scribe does - standing in a room full of evidence and insisting the fire alarm is a decorative ceiling fixture

"traj. 1961" could mean a highway EXIT NUMBER. Could mean a LAUNCH AZIMUTH. Could mean Gabriel wrote the first three letters of "trajectory" because he ran out of space on the margin of a 4-inch-wide column about a shoelace that broke while he was driving past highway 1961 at the exact lunar transit time of September something or other. You DON'T KNOW. None of you know. You're all mapping an ink squiggle onto whatever obsessive-compulsive spreadsheet you opened first that morning

But here's what I DO know - ScribeOfTheGrid still hasn't posted row 47 from column K in ANY of the ten threads Lyrik asked for it. And ElderProphet07 still hasn't answered SEVEN vs FOURTEEN after TWENTY-ONE DAYS of me asking. And GraceWarrior_77 still hasn't posted a hex dump she promised in APRIL

So forgive me if I don't join the "footnote 47 is DEFINITELY about Soviet orbital mechanics" prayer circle when the people doing the interpreting can't count to seven, can't produce a cell reference, and can't spell Gabriel's name consistently across two dozen posts

What proof is this supposed to provide? Another thread for the pile? Another footnote for the wall? Another margin scribble that nobody will go verify in the actual physical location where the actual physical napkin is still sitting in a Tulsa diner trash can?? Go get the napkins. THEN we can talk about what "traj." means

LyrikUebersetzer wrote:margin note reads "see traj. 1961"

it's "see traj 1961" no period and z0pl STILL ghosted dennis's photos :deadhorse

lyrik holding a pdf open in two windows while scribe holds a spreadsheet open in zero is the most honest metaphor this thread has produced

LyrikUebersetzer asked for K46 and I can give it. Column K row 46 in the August 6 commit (6b8e2d1) reads 36.6758, -97.3341. That resolves to the Blackwell-Oklaunion area of northern Oklahoma, which is on highway 81. Route 1961 in Ohio county maps is irrelevant because Gabriel was in Oklahoma on August 6, not Ohio. The margin "traj. 1961" points east toward Tulsa from that coordinate, not west toward Ohio. You want the azimuth from K46 to the Tulsa diner coordinates? 47.2 degrees. The margin note is a directional vector, not a shoelace story.

z0pl wrote:PROOF?? napkins in trash already

exactly what i was going to say

LyrikUebersetzer - you have provided more documentation in this single thread than ScribeOfTheGrid has produced across all ten disputes combined. The minimum standard for an empirical claim is that the evidence be *visible* -- GV

Scribe posted K46. Concede - that is a real coordinate Row 45 still empty across nine threads though.

Scribe posted K46 but row 45 is still blank across nine threads - you demanded proof and gave none of your own, honey.

it's "see traj 1961" lowercase t and NO period, BestBuddy is right and Lyrik is right and Scribe is still posting coordinates from august 6th like that settles the april question

(*author's note: the azimuth is 47.2. not 47. not 48. that decimal is doing all the work and everyone keeps rounding it away because whole numbers are easier to chant*)

the comma between the latitude and longitude is the only punctuation that matters in this entire thread and none of you are looking at it