Friends of Gabriel Chantayan

ok so i was at the library today (yes i know i live there basically ) and i found this super tiny blurry photo of gabe in some old teen magazine from like 2003 or 2004 maybe??? the lighting is awful and someone's thumb is half on his face but you can DEFINITELY tell it's him because of the jacket and the way he's tilting his head!!! i literally ran home clutching it like a treasure hunt but here's the thing - i CANNOT read the small print and the magazine name is cut off on the clipping and i need to know WHICH ISSUE this is so i can find the full spread!!! has anyone else seen this photo in a magazine?? does anyone recognize the background or the jacket?? i am LOSING MY MIND over here

u posted "found this blurry pic" and then... didn't attach it?

scanned teen mag photo with no scan attached is basically a fanfic opener BestBuddyStar

i want to believe u found something real but without the actual image this is just "trust me bro the thumb was half on his face" energy

post the pic or it didn't happen

BestBuddyStar wrote:ok so i was at the library today...

^ this but also check the gutter margin on the magazine fold. if it's a 2004 issue the spine font changed from century schoolbook to times new roman between june and july. you can ID the exact month by the kerning on the barcode if the thumb isnt covering it. just saying.

thumb on his face and ur asking about the ISSUE maybe start with the THUMB

BestBuddyStar wrote:i literally ran home clutching it like a treasure hunt but here's the thing - i CANNOT read the small print and the magazine name is cut off on the clipping and i need to know WHICH ISSUE this is so i can find the full spread!!!

One cannot identify a magazine issue from a clipping with no masthead. Post the photograph itself; without it, this is merely a claim about a thumb. -- GV

BestBuddyStar you posted "found this blurry pic" and then ... didn't actually attach it? I've been sitting on this scan from a 2003 issue of Teen People (August, the one with the green border on the spine) and the jacket collar in YOUR description matches the one in THIS photo EXCEPT my copy shows the full image and nobody's thumb is on it. So either you're describing a different magazine or you're misremembering what you actually found in that library

Let me show you what I mean...

^ this

a thumb on his face = ur evidence. this is what passes for a sighting now.

ClassOf04_Truther wrote:I've been sitting on this scan from a 2003 issue of Teen People (August, the one with the green border on the spine) and the jacket collar in YOUR description matches the one in THIS photo EXCEPT my copy shows the full image and nobody's thumb is on it. So either you're describing a different magazine or you're misremembering what you actually found in that library

ClassOf04_Truther dropping the actual goods while BestBuddyStar is still running home clutching a treasure hunt with no map attached. You've had this scan since WHEN and you're just now flexing it in a thread where someone else claims to have found it first? That's either real helpful or real territorial and I can't tell which yet

Post the scan or it's two people describing the same thumb from different libraries

BestBuddyStar wrote:ok so i was at the library today...

HONEY, posting "found blurry pic" without the actual scan is like bringing an empty socket photo to the Euclid meet where's the image, sugar? did it vanish into the same column K void as the napkins

1. BestBuddyStar's Teen People clipping is List 1.1: Teen Magazine Hermeneutics Failure Mode. 2. The thumb obscuring Gabriel's face is List 1.1.1: Primary Source Obstruction Protocol. 3. ClassOf04_Truther's Teen People August 2003 scan with green spine border is List 1.1.2: Verifiable Reference Scan. Correctly filed under sub-category 3B: Chain of Custody.

Tomorrow :? when you return to the library :? do you have a scanner this time

ListMasterPrime wrote:Correctly filed under sub-category 3B: Chain of Custody

HONEY, sub-category 3B doesn't exist in the standard citation index and you've been citing phantom permit numbers for four months while everyone else is chasing napkins I'm still waiting for that actual socket photo from Eucl

BestBuddyStar wrote:i literally ran home clutching it like a treasure hunt but here's the thing - i CANNOT read the small print and the magazine name is cut off on the clipping and i need to know WHICH ISSUE this is so i can find the full spread!!!

BestBuddyStar - did you check the gutter margin for the printer's code? Most teen mags printed a tiny five-digit code in the bottom fold of the inner spine that encodes the print run date AND the regional distribution center. If the clipping is cut off at the magazine name then the printer code is probably cut off too, BUT if you held the clipping up to a light source and looked through the paper from the back side the code might be embossed into the stock rather than printed on it - the rotary press leaves a physical indentation even when the ink is on the other side

I have a scan of Teen People August 2003 with the green spine border (same one ClassOf04_Truther mentioned) and the printer code on that issue reads "M03-7231" which resolves to Meredith Corporation's Des Moines plant, press run 3, July 23, 2003. If your clipping matches that code through the light test then we have a positive ID regardless of the thumb

Also the thumb - what angle is the thumb relative to the magazine spine :? If the thumb enters from the left side of the frame then you were holding the magazine open with your left hand while photographing with your right, which means the clipping is probably from a centerfold spread where the gutter fold is visible. If the thumb is from the RIGHT side of the frame then you were holding the magazine with your right hand while taking a phone camera with your left, which means the clipping is from the BACK cover (left-hand hold, right-hand camera = the magazine is facing away from you, which explains the blur). This is measurable information

Bitte post the actual image. A thumb is a vector, not a mystery

e: also check if the paper stock has a watermark in the upper left quadrant when held at a 45-degree angle to a incandescent bulb - Teen People used a different stock weight for the August issues vs the September issues and I have a caliper if you need the measurement

thumb theology is the new denim weave analysis apparently