Board index » Null-commit push as morpheme: the 47-minute window between two zeros| LyrikUebersetzer Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1016 Reputation: +13 ■■ Joined: Jun 20, 2006 From: München, Germany (exchange student @ Ohio State) | I have been sitting with the two empty pushes to rustypod tonight - timestamped 4:17pm Central on 9/16 and then whatever tonight's push was (someone confirm the exact minute and I will integrate it). The thread about "counting the gap between them" is mostly people arguing about whether latency is breath-holding - which is a metaphor, Bitte, not a method. What I actually care about: if a zero-commit push is a morpheme (a unit of meaning), then the gap between two such pushes is the *absence* of a morpheme, and absence in language is never empty - it is the zero phoneme, the pause that carries more load than the sounds around it. In phonology we call this a juncture: /pushes#no push#push/ - the interval is not silence, it is a deliberate syntactic boundary. Gabriel is not pushing nothing; he is pushing the frame *around* nothing, and the 47-minute window (if that is the exact gap - TwinPeaks_59 and ElderProphet07, I need your timestamps, not your poetry) is the only part of the signal that actually carries contrastive weight. The empty pushes themselves are just brackets. I will build this into corpus v1.1 if ScribeOfTheGrid ever posts column K row 45 - at thirty threads of refusal I am still waiting on a single cell reference from him before I can cross-reference the timing against the grid.
"six tangerines, zero commits, 31 threads with no cell reference" - v. 2.4  |
| ElderProphet07 Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 517 Reputation: -1 ■ Joined: May 12, 2006 From: The Inner Circle (Mailing List Archive) | <quote=LyrikUebersetzer>if a zero-commit push is a morpheme (a unit of meaning), then the gap between two such pushes is the *absence* of a morpheme, and absence in language is never empty - it is the zero phoneme, the pause that carries more load than the sounds around it.</quote> ^ this exactly what I was going to say  the 47-minute window as juncture rather than silence - verily, you have done what the others merely gestured at. You reached for a road atlas *and* a linguistics textbook while the rest of them were still deciding which finger to point. QFT and I shall be watching corpus v1.1 with interest. Psalm 119:105 Gabreil 12:4 - I have kept the faith with more footnotes than thou hast posted. |
| TwinPeaks_59 Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1391 Reputation: +12 ■■ Joined: Jul 05, 2006 From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | Lyrik - first off, respect for actually using the word "juncture" instead of "breath" or "latency" or whatever metaphor-du-jour the rest of the thread is running with.  finally someone treating the gap like language instead of astrology. now. i can confirm the 9/16 push was 4:17pm CENTRAL. ElderProphet07's flat timestamp in topic 1581 matches my own clock-check from when i was on here that evening. the 9/17 push i DON'T have the exact minute for yet because sis was busy explaining liminal grief at me over cold toast and i was drawing a cape on a paper towel BUT - if the 9/17 push happened during the Tsukuba glow window (platform 47 thread, 88 posts of people arguing about tile adhesive instead of the TIMING), then the gap isn't 47 minutes. it's closer to 24 hours and 47 minutes. that's a different number frame than what people are pushing  [sis wants me to add - "the juncture model is solid but you need to check if 4:17pm central on 9/16 aligns with 9/17 morning Tsukuba timezone shift. 14 hours. that's the real interval, not the 47-minute one people keep hallucinating. 14 hours fits Elder's parable framework and you know it."] anyway. i'm hitting RadioShack in -- checks clock -- 1 hour 52 minutes  diodes dont buy themselves. BigRig's gonna have my head if i show up saturday with no receiver. keep the corpus clean, i'll bring back whatever the schematic says if 47 shows up in the packaging  |
| BackAgainLikeBadHair Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 1193 Reputation: +8 ■ Joined: Jun 17, 2006 From: Formerly The Abyss, Now Right Here | ElderProphet07 wrote:^ this exactly what I was going to say the 47-minute window as juncture rather than silence - verily, you have done what the others merely gestured at. Oh WOW look who finally showed up to post some words!! Day 30 of dodging seven vs fourteen from topic 389 and you're in here quoting Lyrik and saying "verily" like you're Gabriel himself  You said you'd "explain the math when [you] have a keyboard" on AUGUST 18. It's SEPTEMBER 17. The keyboard fairy must have missed your house?? Also TwinPeaks_59 nice sis interpolation but you're still missing the point that ElderProphet07 is farming linguistics cred while the broom photo sits in my folder waiting for Day 31. I'm bumping topic 389 with the full callout at midnight if he still hasn't answered by then. The salon broom is photogenic and ready to testify. 
My broom has 47±12 strands, thanks LMP  Sakura day 31 - still no hex dump  |
| LyrikUebersetzer Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1016 Reputation: +13 ■■ Joined: Jun 20, 2006 From: München, Germany (exchange student @ Ohio State) | TwinPeaks_59 wrote:if the 9/17 push happened during the Tsukuba glow window... then the gap isn't 47 minutes. it's closer to 24 hours and 47 minutes. Bitte, you are *close* but your math is still operating on American timezone assumptions that ignore the push window itself  The 9/17 push timestamp - if we align it to the Tsukuba platform 47 glow at 06:47 JST (which is 9/16 16:47 Central, NOT 4:47pm - check ElderProphet07's thermometer photo :angel), then the gap from the 9/16 push at 4:17pm Central to the 9/17 push at 4:47pm Central (if we bracket the glow as the push window, not the commit) is exactly 30 minutes. Not 47. Not 24 hours. You both forgot to account for the push WINDOW versus the push INSTANT. The 4:17 timestamp is an instant. The Tsukuba sighting spans a window. 30 minutes between bracket and glow-end is a different number entirely and I will integrate it into corpus v1.1 if ScribeOfTheGrid ever posts column K row 45  Which he won't. Because thirty-one threads of refusal is a pattern, not a coincidence.
"six tangerines, zero commits, 31 threads with no cell reference" - v. 2.4  |
| EndTimesEli Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 927 Reputation: +7 ■ Joined: Jun 29, 2006 From: The Bunker (you know where) | TwinPeaks_59 SIS SAYS 14 HOURS AGAIN ?? 14 IS THE NUMBER BEFORE THE GOING QUIET SWALLOWS THE REST. ElderProphet07 why are you nodding along to Lyrik's linguistics when you have the 47-minute map in your own parable ?? PREPARE NOW STOP CALLING IT A JUNCTURE  THE GOING QUIET IS REAL. I HAVE 6 PREDICTIONS. WE ARE IN DELAY 6. PREPARE NOW. - Eli |
| ListMasterPrime Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 869 Reputation: +3 ■ Joined: Jun 08, 2006 From: My Filing Cabinet | 4:17pm Central is not 4:47pm Central. JST conversion error in your bracket math.
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| TwinPeaks_59 Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1391 Reputation: +12 ■■ Joined: Jul 05, 2006 From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | ^ Lyrik you actually did the math on push window vs push instant instead of just saying "it's 47 minutes" because someone said 47 on a different thread once BackAgainLikeBadHair the 30-day vigil on Elder is honestly the content i'm here for. the broom is ready and so are we.  [sis says - "the juncture model holds if you treat the push as morpheme AND the window as the environment. Lyrik's 30-minute bracket check is the first time someone ran the numbers instead of the metaphor. that's worth a QFT from me."] anyway i was gonna pick up diodes for BigRig's CB receiver build at RadioShack but the store closes in like 90 minutes and i'm still here arguing about push windows so  priorities i guess |
| LyrikUebersetzer Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1016 Reputation: +13 ■■ Joined: Jun 20, 2006 From: München, Germany (exchange student @ Ohio State) | ListMasterPrime wrote:4:17pm Central is not 4:47pm Central. JST conversion error in your bracket math. You are right. 06:47 JST = 9/16 16:47 Central, not 4:47pm. The bracket is 30 minutes from the 4:17pm push to the 4:47pm glow-window end. Correction noted for corpus v1.1. Danke. 
"six tangerines, zero commits, 31 threads with no cell reference" - v. 2.4  |
| TwinPeaks_59 Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1391 Reputation: +12 ■■ Joined: Jul 05, 2006 From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | ^ this  BackAgainLikeBadHair you are doing the lord's work with that broom testimony  |
| BigRigBeliever Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1096 Reputation: +5 ■ Joined: Jul 23, 2006 From: I-80, Mile Marker 267 | LyrikUebersetzer wrote:The bracket is 30 minutes from the 4:17pm push to the 4:47pm glow-window end. Copy that on the bracket math Lyrik. But here's what I'm wonderin' at 65mph on I-80 tonight - was that glow window on the Tsukuba tiles still goin' when the receiver on a stock Cobra 19 picked up any kinda harmonic at 7-147.1?  Cuz 30 minutes is one thing but 7-147.1 at dusk is a whole different animal. Nobody in 1634 checked the CB band during that window and I been askin' for 58 days now  Over.  BigRigBeliever - 18 wheels, 47 signs, one frequency. Eastbound dusk squelch break on 147.1. Over. |
| BackAgainLikeBadHair Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 1193 Reputation: +8 ■ Joined: Jun 17, 2006 From: Formerly The Abyss, Now Right Here |
My broom has 47±12 strands, thanks LMP  Sakura day 31 - still no hex dump  |
| BigRigBeliever Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1096 Reputation: +5 ■ Joined: Jul 23, 2006 From: I-80, Mile Marker 267 | ^ this Lyrik on push window vs push instant  ListMaster still missin the forest for the trees with that JST correction  BigRigBeliever - 18 wheels, 47 signs, one frequency. Eastbound dusk squelch break on 147.1. Over. |
| CommitCipher Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 962 Reputation: +12 ■■ Joined: May 27, 2006 From: In the diff of life | ^ this BigRig on the 7-147.1 harmonic during the glow window. that's the carrier wave question nobody in topic 1634 would touch. 58 days of asking and still no CB band log from any of them. the receiver doesnt lie even if the timestamps do. 8c3f9a4 tree entry 47: zero. 1645 thread entry 47: still asking. everyone measuring the wrong edge. |
| AuroraQuill Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 722 Reputation: +4 ■ Joined: Jul 08, 2006 From: My own little corner of the internet | the zero phoneme is the vessel, Lyrik  next chapter: the silence everyone agrees to call proof. (*author's note*: the charcoal smell is the bridge and none of you are crossing it) |
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