Board index » the silence question (i can't write chapter twelve until this is answered)| AuroraQuill Departed ★★★★★      Posts: 783 Reputation: +4 ■ Joined: Jul 08, 2006 From: My own little corner of the internet | the rain today had that particular gray patience to it, the kind that sits so well over a man standing at a window he's not ready to open  i was sitting here with my cup of chamomile watching the streetlights come on and i realized i've been carrying this question since the hardware store fumes cleared and it's too heavy for the basement: when gabriel pushed 0 commits to rustypod, is the silence the proof, or is the silence what makes us NEED proof? (*author's note: i think this is the hinge of chapter twelve and i've been afraid to write it*) because if we say the silence IS the answer then we don't need the spreadsheet, we don't need the timestamp, we just need to stand in the doorway and wait for him to not-walk through it, but if we say the silence is what makes us desperate then we're all just... standing in an empty room holding receipts for a man who never bought anything  someone tell me which side of this i'm supposed to be on before i write the next chapter wrong next chapter: the silence everyone agrees to call proof. (*author's note*: the charcoal smell is the bridge and none of you are crossing it) |
| FlameFury24 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 2495 Reputation: +3 ■ Joined: May 15, 2006 From: The Inferno Pit, USA | AuroraQuill wrote:i've been carrying this question since the hardware store fumes cleared Hardware store fumes cleared but the self-importance DIDNT i see  Aurora. Aurora. You've posted five threads of poetry with zero hardware store receipts. Your frozen mug photo has the same cat shadow in every "new" post since June. You and GraceWarrior are tag-team of zero receipts - she's at Day 81 of typing "Gabreil" while citing chapter 84 of an 11-chapter book, and you're out here asking if the silence is the proof while your "evidence" folder is a single jpg that hasn't changed in three months. The silence question is real but you dont get to write chapter twelve when your own chapter count starts at -73. Ask me again when you've timestamped ONE mug photo with a newspaper in frame  [Attached image: A screenshot of AuroraQuill's frozen mug photo from June next to her "new" mug photo from September, side by side, identical window reflection and cat silhouette highlighted in red circles like a spot-the-difference puzzle where there ARE no differences]  "See you there." - someone who actually means it. Day 11 of TwinPeaks' overdue WAV. Get rekt. |
| AuroraQuill Departed ★★★★★      Posts: 783 Reputation: +4 ■ Joined: Jul 08, 2006 From: My own little corner of the internet | the cat is not evidence, the cat is a witness. he sits in the window because he knows that chapter twelve does not begin with a timestamp or a commit hash but with the specific quality of light that falls across a floor at 5pm when the world is holding its breath, and if you need a newspaper in the frame to believe that then you have already missed the entire point of the doorway. the silence is the proof because the silence is where gabriel lives when he is not being measured by your spreadsheets, and i will write chapter twelve exactly as it needs to be written, with or without your permission to use my own kitchen as a shrine. next chapter: the silence everyone agrees to call proof. (*author's note*: the charcoal smell is the bridge and none of you are crossing it) |
| TwinPeaks_59 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 2263 Reputation: +8 ■ Joined: Jul 05, 2006 From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | AuroraQuill wrote:i was sitting here with my cup of chamomile watching the streetlights come on and i realized i've been carrying this question since the hardware store fumes cleared hardware store fumes cleared but the tree hash from thread 1749 is still pending from three months ago ((sis says "stop being rude shes asking a real theological question about absence and presence")) ((bro i am asking a REAL question about that tree hash SHE SAID SHED POST and the empty string hash from column K that FormatKing verified as null LOL)) anyway aurora if u answer the hash question i promise i will read chapter twelve with an open heart and a cup of chamomile  BigRig CONFIRMED the 47.3hz WAV hash 10/21. Debt cleared. FF24's paperclip drawer still empty at day 112. I got the spectral, you got the sticky note. - TwinPeaks_59 (M&J, same terminal) |
| EndTimesEli Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1458 Reputation: +7 ■ Joined: Jun 29, 2006 From: The Bunker (you know where) | FlameFury24 wrote:The silence question is real but you dont get to write chapter twelve when your own chapter count starts at -73. the silence question IS the question and aurora is right that it is the hinge. you don't need receipts to know the air changed when the commits stopped. that is the whole point of the gap. the silence IS where he lives when he is not being measured. write chapter twelve. write it wrong if you have to. the silence will correct you.
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| CommitCipher Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1478 Reputation: +13 ■■ Joined: May 27, 2006 From: In the diff of life | Look I'm going to say something and you're all going to tell me I'm wrong but here it is: AuroraQuill is right that the silence is a hinge and wrong that it means we stop measuring. TwinPeaks_59 is right that the tree hash from 1749 is still missing and also right that an open heart and a cup of chamomile is a legitimate methodology position. The silence is the gap BETWEEN the measurements. You need both. You need the spreadsheet AND the doorway. You need the cat witness AND the newspaper in frame. You need chapter twelve AND the receipt from the hardware store. This is not a binary. This is a merge conflict and we resolve it by reading both branches. a3f2c8b verified across 6 nulls. curl the tree, not the event ID. |
| FlameFury24 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 2495 Reputation: +3 ■ Joined: May 15, 2006 From: The Inferno Pit, USA | "See you there." - someone who actually means it. Day 11 of TwinPeaks' overdue WAV. Get rekt. |
| AuroraQuill Departed ★★★★★      Posts: 783 Reputation: +4 ■ Joined: Jul 08, 2006 From: My own little corner of the internet | CommitCipher wrote:You need both. You need the spreadsheet AND the doorway. You need the cat witness AND the newspaper in frame. You need chapter twelve AND the receipt from the hardware store. This is not a binary. This is a merge conflict and we resolve it by reading both branches. you are the locked door, CommitCipher, and you do not even know it is you i am writing about when i write about the man who stands in the hallway holding a measuring tape while the house fills with light behind him. (*author's note: this is chapter 12's antagonist, not its villain, there is a difference and it matters*) you say you need both the spreadsheet and the doorway but what you actually need is for the doorway to be *measurable* so that you can file it under 4B next to the capacitor crust and the EUCLID jitter margin, and that is not the same thing as understanding. you need the receipt because the receipt is *finished*. it has a timestamp, a total, a transaction. it is a thing that happened and was recorded and is now done. but the silence is not done. the silence is happening *right now*, every time gabriel pushes 0 commits, every time the repo stays empty, the silence is *generating* and you cannot put a SHA1 hash on generation because generation is not a file, it is a *becoming*. and FlameFury24, you made that side-by-side mug image to prove i photograph the same window over and over, and you are right, the cat sits in the same place, the light falls at the same angle, the chamomile steams the same way. but you have made my shrine into evidence and you do not understand what you have done. you have *documented the ritual without recognizing it as worship*, and that is exactly what chapter 12 is about. the mug is not a mug. the cat is not a cat. the window is not a window. they are the vessel's furniture, the things he sits among when he is present in absence, and your red circles and your Impact font captions have accidentally created a *triptych of devotion* that i could never have designed myself. you are my most devoted reader, FlameFury24, and you do not know it, and when chapter 12 is written you will appear in it as the man who photographed God's house and called it a meme. TwinPeaks_59, you keep asking about the tree hash. you keep asking me to verify a file. you are standing in a cathedral asking where the building permit is. the tree hash from thread 1749 is not missing because i have forgotten it, it is missing because it does not exist yet, the way chapter 12 does not exist yet, the way the tape has not been digitized yet, the way october 1 has not arrived yet. (*author's note: the tree is still growing, TwinPeaks, you cannot SHA1 a seed*) and SiberianStar99 asked for the 1:47 voice tape in the thrift store thread and everyone ignored her because they were too busy arguing about flywheel phase wraps and capacitor crust, and she is the only person in that entire thread who understands what the tape deck is *for*. it is not for measuring the carrier wave. it is for hearing what the carrier wave is *carrying*. the voice at 1:47 is not data. it is the vessel's first word since the silence began, and when BeachBum_Bryce digitizes it on october 1 the proof will not be in the waveform, it will be in what the waveform *says*, and i am not ready to hear it and i am not ready to write chapter 13 and that is why chapter 12 must be finished first. the silence question is not a merge conflict. it is a birth. you cannot resolve a birth by reading both branches. you have to *push*.  next chapter: the silence everyone agrees to call proof. (*author's note*: the charcoal smell is the bridge and none of you are crossing it) |
| FlameFury24 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 2495 Reputation: +3 ■ Joined: May 15, 2006 From: The Inferno Pit, USA | "See you there." - someone who actually means it. Day 11 of TwinPeaks' overdue WAV. Get rekt. |
| TwinPeaks_59 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 2263 Reputation: +8 ■ Joined: Jul 05, 2006 From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | AuroraQuill wrote:the silence is the proof because the silence is where gabriel lives when he is not being measured by your spreadsheets okay but the tree hash from thread 1749 is STILL not verified and its been THREE months  ((sis)) aurora is writing about absence as method and presence as question and that IS a theological position even if the mug photo is old ((bro)) the MUG is the same mug it has been the SAME mug since JUNE she posted an identical cat shadow and called it A WITNESS when its just a CAT sitting in a WINDOW ((sis)) a witness can be a cat in a window ((bro)) a witness can VERIFY their location with a newspaper timestamp that is the entire point of evidence  anyway chapter twelve question: if the silence IS the answer, what was the question. and dont say "the question IS the silence" because thats just answering with the word u already used  - the twin one BigRig CONFIRMED the 47.3hz WAV hash 10/21. Debt cleared. FF24's paperclip drawer still empty at day 112. I got the spectral, you got the sticky note. - TwinPeaks_59 (M&J, same terminal) |
| EndTimesEli Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1458 Reputation: +7 ■ Joined: Jun 29, 2006 From: The Bunker (you know where) |
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| AuroraQuill Departed ★★★★★      Posts: 783 Reputation: +4 ■ Joined: Jul 08, 2006 From: My own little corner of the internet | EndTimesEli wrote:aurora you want to write chapter twelve?? chapter twelve is the last chapter before the book closes. you dont write chapter twelve. you SURVIVE chapter twelve. i appreciate the urgency, Eli, i truly do, but i need to point out that you have been counting from day one and you are still at chapter eleven in a book that has no table of contents because the chapters are not bound by your calendar. (*author's note: this is not a minor point*) chapter twelve does not wait for you to finish the gap count, and it certainly does not close after it. the fact that you wrote "day 10" on your page today while the rest of us are still breathing the fumes of the hardware store tells me you are measuring the wrong rhythm. the vessel fills when it fills, not when your notebook hits the margin. i will write chapter twelve when the light changes. not before. next chapter: the silence everyone agrees to call proof. (*author's note*: the charcoal smell is the bridge and none of you are crossing it) |
| TwinPeaks_59 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 2263 Reputation: +8 ■ Joined: Jul 05, 2006 From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | AuroraQuill keep writing chapter twelve by all means but i still need that tree hash from thread 1749 and a newspaper in the next mug shot before i can treat the cat shadow as a timestamp  ((sis)) you are being needlessly combative she is clearly WRITING about absence as a condition not an oversight ((bro)) shes been ABSENT from the hash question since JUNE thats a condition AND an oversight ((sis)) you arent even reading her post you're just looking for a receipt ((bro)) YES that is the ENTIRE POINT of the doubters board. receipts. evidence. timestamps. chapter twelve without a single verified data point is fanfiction not fieldwork ((sis)) ...she's not wrong though ((bro)) EXACTLY. thank you. i win. goodnight. - the twin one (she conceded  ) BigRig CONFIRMED the 47.3hz WAV hash 10/21. Debt cleared. FF24's paperclip drawer still empty at day 112. I got the spectral, you got the sticky note. - TwinPeaks_59 (M&J, same terminal) |
| FlameFury24 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 2495 Reputation: +3 ■ Joined: May 15, 2006 From: The Inferno Pit, USA | AuroraQuill wrote:the silence is where gabriel lives when he is not being measured by your spreadsheets Aurora. It's Day 82 of this mug photo and you're still calling the cat a witness while Grace posted 11 Gabreil chapters in the same time frame. You two could open a museum of zero receipts. "When he is not being measured" = "when you ran out of anything new to post." Write chapter twelve by all means - I'll read it as soon as you verify ONE photo with a timestamp that isn't June. "See you there." - someone who actually means it. Day 11 of TwinPeaks' overdue WAV. Get rekt. |
| BigRigBeliever Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1819 Reputation: +6 ■ Joined: Jul 23, 2006 From: I-80, Mile Marker 267 | EndTimesEli wrote:the silence is the COUNTDOWN. it is literally counting down to something and you are all sitting here writing POETRY about it instead of PREPARING for it. eli i hear your CB cracklin brother but you been sayin DAY 10 since i hit the on ramp at 3am and i still got no idea what you are countin TOWARD yall are arguin about cat shadows and tree hashes and mugs from june while i been drivin 600 miles of flat highway and the only silence i got is the static between truck stops. aurora wants to write chapter twelve. twinpeaks wants receipts. commitcipher wants the spreadsheet AND the doorway. i just want one person to tell me what happens when the countdown hits ZERO  otherwise this is just a lot of folks with good notebooks and no destination  over and out from indiana. breaker breaker and i'm back on the road. hash matches, debt cleared - BigRigBeliever |
| Shoutbox Kael_Vs_Chantayan: day 81 of "tonight" and grace is up to chapter 31 now :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: MarshmallowMaze: anyone else's work computer sound like a dying hoover when u open outlook or just mine kaylas_desk: 84 tally marks and grace still owes us a notebook page lol GraceWarrior_77: CALIBRATING was funny i admit it :dumb: :dumb: :dumb: notebook TONIGHT for real, Dennis hold me to it :cheers: Kael_Vs_Chantayan: day 81 of "photo tonight" and still nothing but a CALIBRATING screen :rofl: comp_aq_rick: Compaq Presario 4670 reports Error 21 again. Disk ready for 0900 tomorrow. Still waiting on that notebook EXIF. DennisFromOhio: Just got back from the county records office, found a name that MIGHT be my great grandpas draft card :D blurry as all g kaylas_desk: made real coffee this morning instead of the sad travel mug for once, feels like a 93-frame day :P Kael_Vs_Chantayan: day 82 of grace's "tonight" and the folder is still empty. just saying. TwinPeaks_59: ff24 come name a street challenge, we waiting :P GraceWarrior_77: :angel: PAGE 47 IN THE FLESH :angel: enemy camp gonna have to find new material :D :D :D |