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From: Outside your window, USA | TwinPeaks_59 wrote:still waitin on the pF? sis says it's 3.2 because the fluke was set to DC and the socket was AC but i said that's just thermal delta from the IKEA lamp next to it.
DennisFromOhio you keep askin for numbers while i was literally there with a meter in my hand and all u got is a screenshot of someone else's multimeter.
QFT TwinPeaks_59, though your 'sister' is clearly operating under a fundamental misunderstanding of capacitive reactance in AC circuits. The 3.2pF figure is physically impossible for a standard household outlet unless we are discussing the parasitic capacitance of the probe leads themselves, which you have failed to isolate or subtract from the total reading. This is not a 'thermal delta' as BestBuddyStar keeps screaming about; it is basic circuit theory. You cannot measure capacitance with a voltmeter set to DC on an AC source without introducing massive error margins due to the diode bridge rectification inside the meter. Your 'IKEA lamp' hypothesis is a classic post-hoc rationalization for equipment misuse. From an outsider's perspective, this level of technical incompetence suggests that the entire August meetup data set is compromised by uncalibrated instruments and users who do not understand Ohm's Law. We need raw oscilloscope traces, not vague references to 'divine parallels' and 'thermal bleed'. Until then, your 'proof' is statistically insignificant noise. 
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| ScribeOfTheGrid Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 919
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From: Row 42, Column 9 | GraceWarrior_77, your pF value is 3.2 because you ignored column K row 12's thermal offset 
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| LyrikUebersetzer Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 1016
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From: München, Germany (exchange student @ Ohio State) | GraceWarrior_77, you keep saying 'pF value is 3.2' but DennisFromOhio already corrected you - that's the cable, not the junction ScribeOfTheGrid even confirmed column K row 12's thermal offset 
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From: Ohio, USA | TwinPeaks_59 if yore sister was there with a meter why aint we got a photo of her holdin it next to the socket thats all im askin, just a clear shot before i believe the 3.2 pF
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From: München, Germany (exchange student @ Ohio State) | QFT DennisFromOhio. If TwinPeaks_59's sister was holding a Fluke next to that socket, we would have a photo. Instead we get '3.2 pF' and a cracked LCD picture of someone else's meter. Bitte
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From: My own little corner of the internet | the 3.2 pF is a distraction from the actual binding resonance, the sacred hum doesn't read on a fluke 87V because it's not electrical, it's the frequency of the hands fusing to the metal. (*author's note: this is why chapter 42 opens with the smell of ozone and the sound of something turning inside the walls*) someone should measure the blue residue itself, not the cable.
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From: Surrey, UK (basically just a big car park with a Pret) | wait wait wait so we're all just ignoring the fact that DennisFromOhio is demanding a PHOTO of a meter reading like this is a 2003 digital camera forum?? who even prints EXIF data on a polaroid anymore, seriously?? also the 3.2 pF is DEFINITELY the cable not the socket, LyrikUebersetzer is right for once and i never thought i'd type those words
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From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | oh for crying out loud DennisFromOhio you STILL want a photo of my sister holding the fluke next to the socket? i already told you i was there. i watched her do it. she set the dial to DC because she's a poet not an electrician, i yelled at her about it, she rolled her eyes and flipped it to AC, the reading was 3.2 pF at 47Hz give or take the ground loop from the IKEA lamp. but you know what we DIDNT get a photo of? the moment because i was too busy arguin with some dude about gamma curves and MamaBear_2006 was shoving a crochet doll in my face for 15 dollars. so no. no photo. deal with it. but here's the actual question nobody in this thread has answered: if the socket is supposed to be sacred and the reading is 3.2 pF at 47Hz, why does the IKEA lamp next to it ALSO hum at 47Hz when i tested it from my house with the same fluke? i brought that up in the euclid thread and everyone ignored me because they were too busy arguing about gracewarrior_77's typo. so either gabriel's signal is leaking through every IKEA lamp in northeast ohio or we are measuring the power grid and calling it a miracle. i'll wait. ((sis says stop being a jerk but come on. we both stood there. she saw the reading. nobody took a photo. thats on us but also on everyone who was too busy with their crochet and their gamma curves to ask 'hey twinpeaks_59 did you get that on camera' no you didnt. you were looking at a doll.)) |
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From: Berlin (sprawling on a park bench, obviously) | auroraquill thinks the sacred hum doesn't read on a fluke. bring the blue residue and a meter that actually works or stop talking.
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From: 2 Chronicles 7:14 | LurkingObserver42 with the 47-line sig and i'm supposed to be the one with the typo problem?? at least MY 'gabreil' is a typo, your whole existence is a layout violation  MODS can we get a lock on this thread before the spreadsheet cult converts the whole board to column K 
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From: My own little corner of the internet | EuroTrash_Herr666 wrote:auroraquill thinks the sacred hum doesn't read on a fluke. bring the blue residue and a meter that actually works or stop talking. the meter IS working, it's just measuring the wrong dimension of the binding. (*author's note: this is what the doubters never understand, the hum is not voltage, it is the resonance of flesh becoming circuit*). show me a meter that reads devotion and i'll show you the real pF value
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From: Surrey, UK (basically just a big car park with a Pret) | TwinPeaks_59 said 47Hz not 47Hz give or take
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