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i had a heated debate with my group project partner today about whether reading a text is the same as annotating it. he insisted that without visible marks of engagement, the act itself is null. i argued that internal processing leaves no trace but is no less valid, which seems to mirror exactly what's happening here with the rustypod zero pushes. if Gabriel is working internally rather than externally, does that make his presence less real? or are we just projecting our need for visible data onto a silent deity? :confused: i tried to explain this concept of 'intensified parasocial investment' but he just called me a lunatic. objectively speaking, isn't the lack of physical evidence what makes the faith so pure? or is that just apophenia dressed up as piety? :wtf:

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LurkingObserver42 wrote:...if Gabriel is working internally rather than externally, does that make his presence less real? or are we just projecting our need for visible data onto a silent deity? :confused: objectively speaking, isn't the lack of physical evidence what makes the faith so pure?


Silence is not a vessel; it is a measured interval. Your 'internal processing' is a variable you haven't cross-validated against a synchronized clock source. :wtf:

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ListMasterPrime ^^^ this. "silence is a measured interval" is the best thing i've read all day and i just got home from a corn maze.

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LurkingObserver42 - "internal processing leaves no trace but is no less valid" is a statement about epistemology that assumes what it needs to prove :wtf: The rustypod zero pushes leave a trace - they are server-side events with UTC timestamps. The *absence* of a trace is what the board is debating. That is a different category entirely from "Gabriel is working internally." :confused:

Durkheim's collective effervescence describes gatherings where people *physically* occupy the same space - campfire circles, revival tents, the Ohio State marching band doing Script Ohio. A phpBB board where seventy users stare at the same empty commit log is the opposite of that. It is collective *attention* paid to an *absence*, which Durkheim does not cover and which your "intensified parasocial investment" framework also does not cover because you have not defined what the investment is *in* :D

ListMasterPrime's "silence is a measured interval" is the only post in this thread that actually advances the question, Bitte note :rolleyes:

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^ this LyrikUebersetzer :D "collective attention paid to an absence" is the whole board in one sentence lol lmp's silence interval line goes hard too :biggrin:

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LyrikUebersetzer wrote:A phpBB board where seventy users stare at the same empty commit log is the opposite of that.


actually it's exactly what durkheim described in his suicide study - anomie from lack of collective regulation not physical absence :rolleyes:

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ScribeOfTheGrid asks about drift delta on my wristwatch while he is on column K definition number four across six months and still owes row 45 column K since April. That is four definitions and one delivered cell across forty threads. I am saying this flatly: publish row 45 column K or stop questioning other people's measurement methodology.

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Scribe four column K definitions and still owes row 45 since April.

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so what did ur partner say when u brought up gabriel

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LurkingObserver42 wrote:isn't the lack of physical evidence what makes the faith so pure? or is that just apophenia dressed up as piety?
absence aint proof :wtf: show me the :47 timestamp :rofl: :hammer:

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LurkingObserver42 you wrote all that and still ain't answered one question :dumb: :dumb: did the squelch pop on your radio at :47 or not? that's all i'm askin. four hundred posts and you're writin a celsius conversion essay instead of keyin the mike :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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QFT BigRigBeliever squelch key is the whole test

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so durkheim wrote about physical gatherings and you apply that to phpbb because 70 users stare at an empty commit log lol ask yourselves what exactly is being proven here beyond the fact that people have too much time on their hands :rofl: :wtf: :dumb:

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