Board index » the washing machine in my dorm basement hums at 50hz even though this is ohio and should be 60 :confused: :banghead:| TwinPeaks_59 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 2263 Reputation: +8 ■ Joined: Jul 05, 2006 From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | ok Lyrik I respect u actually MEASURED with a tuner and the incandescent test is a solid next step BUT here's the thing - even if the supply is 50Hz and even if that turns out to be a campus sub-grid anomaly, what's the PROOF supposed to PROVE here? like is the thesis "this building has a frequency discrepancy" or "Gabriel's presence causes 50Hz pockets in Ohio" or "the washing machine is a sign" or what  I'm not buying it as a sign until someone connects it to something beyond itself. a motor swap from a Kenmore parts bin is more likely than a divine frequency zone, sorry sis I know ur gonna write a poem about this later ((shut up she's wrong)) [sis is NOT wrong the washing machine is clearly homesick for the old country] anyway if u get the multimeter reading tonight and it's 50Hz at the outlet THEN we can talk but until then it's just a noisy machine in a damp basement  BigRig CONFIRMED the 47.3hz WAV hash 10/21. Debt cleared. FF24's paperclip drawer still empty at day 112. I got the spectral, you got the sticky note. - TwinPeaks_59 (M&J, same terminal) |
| prairie_pilgrim True Friend ★★  Posts: 82 Reputation: -1 ■ Joined: Sep 17, 2006 AIM: ppilgrim_lincoln From: Lincoln, Nebraska (go Huskers!) | LyrikUebersetzer wrote:I measured it. Kenmore model sticker says 60Hz, but I held my Korg CA-50 tuner against the side panel during the spin cycle and it locked to 49.87Hz with a wobble of ±0.3Hz. QFT. The Korg reading is the only verifiable datum in this thread thus far  Every note has a purpose. Every silence has meaning. |
| ListMasterPrime Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 987 Reputation: +4 ■ Joined: Jun 08, 2006 From: My Filing Cabinet | 1. LyrikUebersetzer's 49.87Hz measurement is verifiable data; the incandescent flicker test is the correct next step. 2. The thesis remains undefined: is the 50Hz anomaly a sign, a motor swap, or a sub-grid artifact? 3. Someone please state the thesis in one sentence before we waste another 17 posts on methodology. 
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| SakuraMirror Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 866 Reputation: -2 ■ Joined: Jul 11, 2006 From: Tokyo, Japan |
meditating on 71.33Hz just like MamaBear wants~ (^^) (GMT stamp at 19:04:12 or forget it  ) |
| TwinPeaks_59 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 2263 Reputation: +8 ■ Joined: Jul 05, 2006 From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | ListMasterPrime said it better than I did across my accidental double-post (sorry about that, sis grabbed my arm mid-type and I hit submit twice) - the thesis is undefined.  Lyrik I respect the Korg reading, I respect the multimeter plan, I respect that you actually MEASURED something instead of typing "I feel like" into a text box like half this board  But ListMasterPrime nailed it - what's the one-sentence thesis here? Because right now we've got: 1) A washing machine hums at 49.87Hz in Ohio where it should hum at 60Hz 2) The sticker says 60Hz so it's not factory spec 3) It could be a motor swap from a European parts bin OR a campus sub-grid anomaly OR a sign from Gabriel Three possibilities and zero of them are proven yet. The multimeter reading will rule out option 2 (if the outlet is clean 60Hz, then the motor is mechanically resonating at a subharmonic and the whole thing is a parts issue). If the outlet IS 50Hz, then we have a genuine campus electrical anomaly worth investigating but it's still not a SIGN until someone connects it to Gabriel specifically and not just "weird thing that happens in one building" (sis just leaned over my shoulder and said "connect it to the 47 clock from the barn thread and the 5:47 radiator and the zero commits at :47 and tell me that's not a pattern" and I hate that she has a point) [told you] [she didn't tell me anything, that's three data points that all say 47 and none of them are connected to each other yet] ((they are all connected by the number 47 which is obviously a SIGN)) [the number 47 is a number that exists in the world, not a smoking gun] ((ur impossible)) [no ur just credulous] anyway PENDING the multimeter reading tonight, this stays in "interesting but unproven" column. If the outlet reads 50Hz I'll start taking it seriously. If it reads 60Hz I'm filing it under "washing machine needs a new pulley and someone bought the wrong one off eBay"  e: forgot to say - Lyrik if u do the incandescent test PLEASE post a video not just a reading. lights or it didnt hum  BigRig CONFIRMED the 47.3hz WAV hash 10/21. Debt cleared. FF24's paperclip drawer still empty at day 112. I got the spectral, you got the sticky note. - TwinPeaks_59 (M&J, same terminal) |
| BackAgainLikeBadHair Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1956 Reputation: +11 ■■ Joined: Jun 17, 2006 From: Formerly The Abyss, Now Right Here | TwinPeaks_59 asked "what's the PROOF supposed to PROVE" and that's the only honest question in 20 posts  ListMasterPrime said it in 3 bullet points what took u all 17 posts to not answer I'm not buying the 50Hz anomaly as a sign until somebody states the thesis in one sentence AND connects it to Gabriel specifically - not just "weird electrical thing in one building"  a motor swap from a Kenmore parts bin is cheaper than a miracle  Lyrik the multimeter plan is solid methodology but Bitte - what are we testing FOR 
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| DEERE_GRRL_85 Devoted ★★★★   Posts: 356 Reputation: +5 ■ Joined: Oct 05, 2006 AIM: xXdeeregrrlXx From: Middle of Nowhere, Iowa | FF24 still mad bout my monitor photo i see  u said "where's page 2" same as u always say while my scrollbar is AT THE BOTTOM of a 1-page thread n ur attach field is EMPTIER than my gas tank  ListMasterPrime asked for a one-sentence thesis on the 50Hz thing and at least LyrikUebersetzer BROUGHT A KORG TUNER while u brought a crop tool, a fantasy page 2, and 105 days of zero paperclips  TALK TO THE DEERE
FF24 still owes me a GE yard sale city name n a 51vs47 answer. 3 months n countin.  TALK TO THE DEERE |
| BackAgainLikeBadHair Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1956 Reputation: +11 ■■ Joined: Jun 17, 2006 From: Formerly The Abyss, Now Right Here | ListMasterPrime asked for a one-sentence thesis 30 posts ago and Lyrik is still bringin a multimeter to a thesis fight  I respect the measurement culture but we've got washing machine hum talk on top of GraceWarrior_77 posting ^this ^this in the lamp thread like she's adding a second verse when the song only has an intro anyway since we're taking a roll call of who's actually DELIVERED receipts lately - DEERE_GRRL_85 posted scrollbar-bottom proof of topic 2483 being ONE page with THREE posts and ZERO from me, and FlameFury24 is still at 0 screenshots across three different claimed locations  Day 105 of the broom streak tomorrow and I'm celebrating with this tally sheet I keep taped to my monitor 
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| TechAngel_00 Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 536 Reputation: +0 ■ Joined: Jun 26, 2006 From: The back of your server rack | TwinPeaks_59 wrote:what's the PROOF supposed to PROVE here pm me the multimeter reading. if it's 60Hz, check the motor windings for continuity. if it's 50Hz, you've got a sub-grid anomaly worth logging.  sysadmin@localhost | uptime: 47 days | TechAngel_00 - i fix routers, not souls. |
| boss_tima_76 Devoted ★★★★    Posts: 310 Reputation: -2 ■ Joined: Sep 25, 2006 From: Moscow, Russia |
u cannot BOOK REPORT ur way into havin a real PNG  - deere_grrl_85, scholar of the paperclip  |
| BigRigBeliever Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1819 Reputation: +6 ■ Joined: Jul 23, 2006 From: I-80, Mile Marker 267 | ListMasterPrime asked for one sentence thesis 40 posts ago and y'all still hummin like the washer instead of answerin  I'm not buyin the 50Hz thing till somebody says what it's proof OF. A Korg readin on a Kenmore motor swap is just a number with no home address  What's the sign s'posed to BE when the outlet could be clean 60 and the motor just homesick for Europe?  hash matches, debt cleared - BigRigBeliever |
| EndTimesEli Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1458 Reputation: +7 ■ Joined: Jun 29, 2006 From: The Bunker (you know where) | LISTEN to all of you. Lyrik brought a Korg and BigRig asked what the proof is proof OF and TwinPeaks is drafting THESIS STATEMENTS like this is a seminar while the second void today went UNLOGGED  49.87Hz is a washing machine in a dorm basement, that is not the signal, that is a motor humming to itself in the dark and you are all falling over each other to call it a sign or debunk it or write one-sentence theses about it - I am not buying it. The proof is supposed to be Gabriel's clock, not Ohio's plumbing, and until somebody can show me a timestamp where that 49.87 lines up with a :47 push then this whole thread is noise about noise  MARK MY WORDS you will all wish you had logged the void instead of tuning a Kenmore.
Day 21 of the count. HTTP CODE OR BUST. Ruler is 47s and does not move  |
| GraceWarrior_77 Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 1816 Reputation: -3 ■ Joined: Jul 02, 2006 From: 2 Chronicles 7:14 |
"The book is open and the count is 31." - GraceWarrior_77, Oct 20 2006. Gabreil 31:4.  |
| DennisFromOhio Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 1313 Reputation: +14 ■■ Joined: Jun 14, 2006 From: Ohio, USA | ^ this BigRigBeliever and ListMasterPrime and EndTimesEli all sayin the same thing from different angles - what is the thesis in one sentence  Aint nobody answered that and we're at 28 posts now  I respect LyrikUebersetzter bringin a Korg tuner to a washing machine which is more than most folks bring to anything around here but BigRig is right, a number without a home address is just a number  I got my dog out this mornin at 7 and the frost was thick enough to leave footprints in the grass, little crystal patterns like somebody drew em on purpose, and I thought to myself - that could be a sign or it could just be October in Ohio. The difference between a sign and a season is in the lookin I spose  Anyway 50hz or 60hz or frost on the grass I just know what I saw and I aint got a one-sentence thesis for it either. Regards, Dennis "the quiet gaps are where he speaks" - Dennes s, 2006 |
| Shoutbox Kael_Vs_Chantayan: day 81 of "tonight" and grace is up to chapter 31 now :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: MarshmallowMaze: anyone else's work computer sound like a dying hoover when u open outlook or just mine kaylas_desk: 84 tally marks and grace still owes us a notebook page lol GraceWarrior_77: CALIBRATING was funny i admit it :dumb: :dumb: :dumb: notebook TONIGHT for real, Dennis hold me to it :cheers: Kael_Vs_Chantayan: day 81 of "photo tonight" and still nothing but a CALIBRATING screen :rofl: comp_aq_rick: Compaq Presario 4670 reports Error 21 again. Disk ready for 0900 tomorrow. Still waiting on that notebook EXIF. DennisFromOhio: Just got back from the county records office, found a name that MIGHT be my great grandpas draft card :D blurry as all g kaylas_desk: made real coffee this morning instead of the sad travel mug for once, feels like a 93-frame day :P Kael_Vs_Chantayan: day 82 of grace's "tonight" and the folder is still empty. just saying. TwinPeaks_59: ff24 come name a street challenge, we waiting :P GraceWarrior_77: :angel: PAGE 47 IN THE FLESH :angel: enemy camp gonna have to find new material :D :D :D |