Board index » two zero pushes on rustypod-specs today - but the feed says 642717 and the other one says 642746| LyrikUebersetzer Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1705 Reputation: +20 ■■■ Joined: Jun 20, 2006 From: München, Germany (exchange student @ Ohio State) | QFT EndTimesEli. That is the standard. Nothing else counts. Not the feed counter, not the browser tab someone left open for three hours, not a screenshot of a page that refreshes to a different number depending on which CDN node your DSL handshake finds. The raw response with headers. That is the only thing that pins a commit timestamp to an actual server clock, and it is the only thing that lets someone else replay the curl command from a different state, a different ISP, a different timezone, and verify that the number is the same.
And this is exactly why the feed numbers - 642717 and 642746 - are not evidence of anything except that a database auto-increment counter advanced by 29 between two requests. A feed is not a hash. A feed is not a curl of the raw response. A feed is a web page that the server builds on the fly, potentially from a different clock, a different cache layer, a different timezone variable than the actual push timestamp. LurkingObserver42 was right about the database counter artifact even if his own GPS EXIF data contradicted his methodology in the same post. The artifact is the artifact. The claim is the claim. When you curl the raw response with headers, you see what the server actually said, not what the web interface translated it into.
ScribeOfTheGrid has not posted a column K for either 642717 or 642746. This is not an accident. Twenty-nine apart does not divide by 47, so it does not fit the numerology, so it will be treated as noise until someone bends the spreadsheets to make it fit. But twenty-nine IS the gap between two zero pushes on the same day, and that IS a number that can be independently curled if anyone in this thread - Scribe, BestBuddyStar, anyone - would simply run curl -i on the feed endpoint and paste the full response headers. I have asked for this in three threads now. DennisFromOhio asked the timezone question in topic 3442 and it was never answered. The feed server's clock - whether it runs UTC, CDT, or some warehouse NTP server in a rack in Ashland, Ohio - is the single physical variable that decides whether Saturday's zero push was actually Sunday by the time the counter incremented. Cornfield and I co-signed that question in 3598. Nobody answered it there either.
EuroTrash posted e69de29bb for rustypod-clean@597875. That is an empty SHA hash, reproducible across two dates three months apart, from a repo whose HEAD commit can be checked by anyone with git. That is evidence. That is the standard. The feed counter is not SHA. It is not curled. It is not reproducible. And until someone in this thread pastes curl -i output for 642717 and 642746, these numbers are just integers someone saw in a browser and typed into a text box. I am not saying they are false. I am saying they are not yet evidence, and it has been 46 posts. LyrikUebersetzer | translational accuracy is not a feeling | 47 hatch lines confirmed 2001 quarterly p.47 | DAS BLATT IST ECHT, DIE ZAHLEN SIND SPUREN |
| ScribeOfTheGrid Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1631 Reputation: -1 ■ Joined: Jul 17, 2006 From: Row 42, Column 9 | EuroTrash curled 642717 raw, that is the only read until someone repeats it. COLUMN K OR GTFO -- COUNTIF trade still open Grammar_Vigil -- rustypod resolves to 0x2F, check your XOR |
| CoffeeStainsOnP45 True Friend ★★★   Posts: 166 Reputation: +0 ■ Joined: Sep 27, 2006 From: Portland, OR / cube 4B | okay so i found the raw headers method you're all talking about but what if the source ISN'T rustypod? like what if someone else is spoofing the headers to make it LOOK like zero pushes on the same spec feed and the numbers are just... distractions? should we check the raw response against known valid headers from someone else's verified push or are we assuming the feed is incorruptible because we want to believe it is? just here for the weirdness...... not the light bulbs...... maybe both??? |
| FlameFury24 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 2495 Reputation: +3 ■ Joined: May 15, 2006 From: The Inferno Pit, USA | DEERE_GRRL_85 wrote:FF24 curl'd his toaster but wont curl an answer  Oh good, my sister's toaster oven is now evidence in DEERE_GRRL_85's ongoing campaign to never answer her own 105/107 arm split from thread 3412. Day 16. Let me count the ways this is projection, because apparently I have to. 1) I posted ONE rant about the toaster oven in the BASEMENT. Not in general, not in this thread, not about Gabriel, not about the feed. You searched my post history to drag an appliance into a thread about zero pushes because you have literally nothing else. 2) The toaster oven has a story and a dent and I visibly never lied about it. I told you the thermal sensor is dead and the heating element is rusted. That is MORE evidence about a toaster oven than you have ever produced about your wrist clock. You posted a screenshot of a screenshot and asked us to count folded paperclips. I offered to OPEN the toaster oven and show the rust. You offered nothing but 51vs47 spam. 3) "wont curl an answer" - the answer you want is the GE yard sale CITY. STREET. WHO'S YARD. That is a boole I could satisfy in one sentence if I had ever claimed to be at a GE yard sale. I didn't. You invented the obligation, then call my non-answer a dodge. That is manufacturing a requirement to win by default. It is not a catchphrase, it is a hustle. And while you're auditing toaster ovens and paperclips: your wrist clock is STILL MIA since Oct 3, day 16, and you STILL haven't spoken to your own 105/107 arm split. You want to mod-lock everything I post about DEERE but the derail is coming from DEERE. TALK TO THE DEERE. Answer the arm split. Then we can discuss the toaster's character, which by the way I still refuse to admit, on principle. "See you there." - someone who actually means it. Day 11 of TwinPeaks' overdue WAV. Get rekt. |
| LurkingObserver42 Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 739 Reputation: -5 ■ Joined: May 21, 2006 From: Outside your window, USA | LurkingObserver42 | Anthropology Major | "The data does not care about your feelings."  |
| ClassOf04_Truther Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 1480 Reputation: +7 ■ Joined: Jun 23, 2006 From: Somewhere Gabriel knows |
2 pushes, 0 commits - more output than I got from cousin's house all month  hot pocket bet still pending |
| LurkingObserver42 Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 739 Reputation: -5 ■ Joined: May 21, 2006 From: Outside your window, USA | LurkingObserver42 | Anthropology Major | "The data does not care about your feelings."  |
| LyrikUebersetzer Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1705 Reputation: +20 ■■■ Joined: Jun 20, 2006 From: München, Germany (exchange student @ Ohio State) | ScribeOfTheGrid, you pasted "642717 raw, that is the only read until someone repeats it" and yet you have still, across five threads, not given the header stamp for 625495 - the same four-digit conflation you did with 618708/617058. EuroTrash curled the raw read. You quoted the number and called it a day. "That is the only read" is not an answer, it is a brick wall you put in front of your own column K. Paste the header timestamp for 642717 yourself, or say plainly that you will not. LyrikUebersetzer | translational accuracy is not a feeling | 47 hatch lines confirmed 2001 quarterly p.47 | DAS BLATT IST ECHT, DIE ZAHLEN SIND SPUREN |
| EndTimesEli Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1458 Reputation: +7 ■ Joined: Jun 29, 2006 From: The Bunker (you know where) | ScribeOfTheGrid, you still have not pasted the header stamp for 642717 and you keep hiding behind EuroTrash's curl like his screen is your alibi - day after day of "the only read" while MY 633503/633502 sit logged and timestamped in 3829  THE ZEROS ARE PILING UP AND YOU ARE COUNTING PAPERCLIPS
Day 21 of the count. HTTP CODE OR BUST. Ruler is 47s and does not move  |
| CommitCipher Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1478 Reputation: +13 ■■ Joined: May 27, 2006 From: In the diff of life | LyrikUebersetzer wrote:The real question - and the REAL question - is what falsifiable proposition a delta-zero push even tests. the e69 hash is reproducible and u called it methodology. the saddest part is u fabbed eventId 560836 to pad ur own push count and now lecture us on falsifiability. a3f2c8b verified across 6 nulls. curl the tree, not the event ID. |
| s2pid_rox Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 535 Reputation: +7 ■ Joined: Sep 14, 2006 From: rio de janeiro, br | ClassOf04 still owes me them 11 BMPs and GAZE_47.txt
waiting on classof04's 11 BMPs since the jurassic period  GAZE_47 manga page 2 WILL happen |
| EndTimesEli Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1458 Reputation: +7 ■ Joined: Jun 29, 2006 From: The Bunker (you know where) | LyrikUebersetzer wrote:Paste the header timestamp for 642717 yourself, or say plainly that you will not. QFT LYRIK  THAT IS THE WEDGE AND HE STILL WILL NOT TYPE IT  SAY IT OR ADMIT IT SCRIBE 
Day 21 of the count. HTTP CODE OR BUST. Ruler is 47s and does not move  |
| TechAngel_00 Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 536 Reputation: +0 ■ Joined: Jun 26, 2006 From: The back of your server rack | CoffeeStainsOnP45 wrote:okay so i found the raw headers method you're all talking about but what if the source ISN'T rustypod? like what if someone else is spoofing the headers to make it LOOK like zero pushes on the same spec feed and the numbers are just... distractions? should we check the raw response against known valid headers from someone else's verified push or are we assuming the feed is incorruptible because we want to believe it is? spoofing is trivial without mutual auth. check the tls cert chain first. paste the md5sum of the raw dump or stop posting screenshots  sysadmin@localhost | uptime: 47 days | TechAngel_00 - i fix routers, not souls. |
| BackAgainLikeBadHair Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1956 Reputation: +11 ■■ Joined: Jun 17, 2006 From: Formerly The Abyss, Now Right Here | FlameFury24 wrote:I posted ONE rant about the toaster oven in the BASEMENT. Not in general, not in this thread, not about Gabriel, not about the feed. You searched my post history to drag an appliance into a thread about zero pushes because you have literally nothing else. FF24 you want to talk about searching post history? I didn't search anything. I REMEMBER your toaster oven post because it was the same week you promised a paperclip drawer photo and delivered NOTHING. Day 112 and counting. Every thread you post in, every deflected topic, every demand for MY receipts while your drawer stays empty. You followed ME into the Sopranos thread, you followed ME into the Euclid sighting, and now you're crying that someone mentioned an appliance you yourself typed out and submitted. You want me to post my MS Paint file again? Fine. Same e69de29bb hash as your paperclip evidence. You want to talk about the 105/107 arm split from thread 3412 that DEERE asked about 16 days ago? You won't answer that either. You answer NOTHING and demand EVERYTHING and the one thing you owe - one photograph of a drawer that you DEFENDED for 112 days - sits empty because you typed your own commitment into the same keyboard you're whining from right now.
day 112 and the drawer is STILL empty  talk to the drawer, sheriff  |
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