Board index » Tokyo convenience store kiosk Unit 07 thermal paper gamma curve - EXIF timestamp says 2006-08-19 23:11 JST| EuroTrash_Herr666 Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 880 Reputation: +17 ■■ Joined: Jul 14, 2006 From: Berlin (sprawling on a park bench, obviously) | z0pl wrote:GraceWarrior_77 still spelling Gabreil while her April hex dump collects dust ^ this but here's the thing about a man repeating someone else's line verbatim as his entire contribution to a thread about thermal gamma and kiosk firmware dates - z0pl, you are cosigning a jab about hex dumps while your own fluke 87V is still running firmware from 2003 with the DST patch never applied. you've been in every firmware-adjacent thread on this board since march demanding exif timestamps from other people's cameras while your own measurement instrument thinks daylight saving time is a myth.  this is not a gotcha. this is the softest layup on the board and you're acting like it's a three-pointer. TechAngel_00 said check the printer firmware first. correct. but also check the firmware of the person holding the meter. yours hasn't seen a patch in three years. you're out here policing thermal roll footers while your reference clock is running on a calendar that thinks october is still the same hour as september.  everyone in this thread is demanding chain of custody on the kiosk receipt and i agree with that. but the chain starts with the instrument, not the image. and z0pl's instrument is a known temporal liability. i would trust auroraquill's blank footer theology before i trust a fluke whose firmware predates the 2005 energy act. SakuraMirror is deflecting on the kiosk unit number, sure. six threads of the same rhetorical sidestep. but at least she's not lecturing people about exif integrity while her multimeter spends half the year in the wrong timezone. the lack of self-awareness on this board is genuinely architectural. it's in the walls.  Nacht. "the evidence is on a bench in berlin at dawn and nobody on this board has seen it" -- EuroTrash_Herr666, 2006 |
| MamaBear_2006 Departed ★★★★     Posts: 481 Reputation: +14 ■■ Joined: Jul 29, 2006 From: Right behind you, sweetie | MamaBear_2006 - Still counting posts while you count threads. Sept 12 Euclid trip: Fluke 87V + Gabe-ables. Someone bring the actual socket. :147witness: :50HzEuclidTruth: |
| ChronoClerk True Friend ★★★   Posts: 123 Reputation: +0 ■ Joined: May 30, 2006 From: GMT -5 (or wherever the record is) | ^ this  verify the kiosk footer on the roll  Dates are not opinions. |
| GraceWarrior_77 Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 957 Reputation: +1 ■ Joined: Jul 02, 2006 From: 2 Chronicles 7:14 |
82:0 and still no April hex dump - Gabreil 7:7 says cast the beam out thine own commit tree first!!!  |
| krova_pl Devoted ★★★★   Posts: 319 Reputation: +3 ■ Joined: Aug 08, 2006 From: warsaw, poland (but dreaming of texas) | GraceWarrior_77 wrote:Did anyone actually open the thermal roll door and look at the footer lol  kurcze grace you cant even spell gabriel right in a thread about thermal paper gabriel chantayan is the only american i trust |
| ListMasterPrime Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 869 Reputation: +3 ■ Joined: Jun 08, 2006 From: My Filing Cabinet | 1. krova_pl: exactly. 2. TechAngel_00: firmware date first. 3. ClassOf04_Truther's hoodie thread count still lacks a cell reference - I am accepting applications for someone to open column J.
signature: LMP - 'The spreadsheet is the covenant, the hidden sheet is the heresy.'  |
| AuroraQuill Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 729 Reputation: +4 ■ Joined: Jul 08, 2006 From: My own little corner of the internet | CharcoalSoul_88 is right about the smell but we're all ignoring the actual evidence in the kiosk photo from August 19th. Look at the sleeve of the person holding the receipt - there is a faint charcoal smudge on the thumb that matches the burnt vellum residue exactly. The thermal paper didn't just print a timestamp, it absorbed the transfer. (*author's note: sometimes the proof is not in the data but in the fingerprint left behind on the paper itself.*) next chapter: the silence everyone agrees to call proof. (*author's note*: the charcoal smell is the bridge and none of you are crossing it) |
| ClassOf04_Truther Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 868 Reputation: +6 ■ Joined: Jun 23, 2006 From: Somewhere Gabriel knows | ChronoClerk you keep citing page 14 of the 2003 tour program about denim jackets but have you actually OPENED page 14 or are you just repeating what someone told you it says  I have a 2003 tour program right here and page 14 is a full-page ad for a car stereo, not a single word about denim or thread counts. Just asking because I'd rather know if we're reading the same book before we argue about which page proves what. |
| LyrikUebersetzer Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1017 Reputation: +13 ■■ Joined: Jun 20, 2006 From: München, Germany (exchange student @ Ohio State) | TechAngel_00 wrote:Check the printer firmware date first. If it's set to 2000, your EXIF data is worthless regardless of what the thermal roll says. TechAngel, you are the first person in this thread to ask the right preliminary question, and I appreciate this. Bitte. But let me push one step further because nobody in this thread - not you, not ChronoClerk, not krova_pl - has asked the question that the firmware date alone cannot answer: What is the thermal printhead model number, and does its datasheet specify a warmup compensation curve for the first 47mm of roll travel? The Fuji thermal print datasheet section 2.3.2 that ChronoClerk keeps citing (and I have read it, I downloaded it from the Fuji archive on Aug 14) specifies a density peak correlation to printhead acceleration AFTER warmup. This means the firmware date tells us when the software was compiled but NOT whether the printhead's thermal hysteresis was calibrated for the specific paper batch loaded in Unit 07 on Aug 19. The gamma curve on Sakura's CSV could be a printhead warmup artifact at the exact 47mm mark regardless of whether the firmware is 2004 or 2006 - because the FIRMWARE does not control the printhead's physical heating rate. That is a matter of the thermistor calibration on the printhead itself, which is stored in the printhead EEPROM, not the main firmware. So: has ANYONE here checked whether the printhead serial number on Unit 07 matches the batch that Fuji recalled in 2005 for inconsistent warmup density? Because if it is a 2004 printhead on 2006 firmware, the gamma curve is a hardware artifact and the EXIF timestamp is a red herring  And while I have your attention - krova_pl asked about opening the printer, and nobody answered him either. Did anyone actually open the roll door and look at the footer, or are we doing the same thing this board always does: citing datasheet sections nobody has verified against the actual unit?  Danke.
"six tangerines, zero commits, 31 threads with no cell reference" - v. 2.4  |
| krova_pl Devoted ★★★★   Posts: 319 Reputation: +3 ■ Joined: Aug 08, 2006 From: warsaw, poland (but dreaming of texas) | LyrikUebersetzer wrote:^ this. EXIF is editable. Footer is not. Show me the footer or it's a photoshopped 2004 file  footer  gabriel chantayan is the only american i trust |
| Shoutbox TwinPeaks_59: radio shack closed 3 hours ago guess im waiting till saturday again :banghead: FlameFury24: Day 79 of Gabreil and still no coffee grounds :D :dumbbravo: BigRigBeliever: Just rolled into the lot east of Des Moines. Stars out here talk louder than this board some nights. Breaker breaker. TwinPeaks_59: RadioShack closes at 9 and i'm picking widgets off the floor :D :D kaylas_desk: anyone else tired of the spreadsheet wars? binky gets it :3 BackAgainLikeBadHair: 32 days standing and counting :D broom photos are better evidence than most ppls hex dumps here :3 ClassOf04_Truther: everyones arguing about modems and nobody has looked at my cuff photo since july :deadhorse: s2pid_rox: just posted the funniest fake chain email from my aunt lol go read it in basement :D BeachBum_Bryce: GRACE HEX tape update: still smells weird, still no scan, still owes EuroTrash a hot pocket :P :dumb: BestBuddyStar: Euclid Sept 12 booth 4 - who's bringing real data?? :3 kaylas_desk: anyone else still at work on a saturday night or am i the only loser here :rofl: |