| BigRigBeliever Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1111 Reputation: +5 ■ Joined: Jul 23, 2006 From: I-80, Mile Marker 267 | Broke a Gabriel bootleg by accident tonight in the truck. When it cracked - dead center, right through the foil - there was this harmonic, low and steady, kinda like what I caught on CB at MM267 at dusk  Probably nothin, but the coincidence got me thinkin. The hum finds you even in the small things. Over and out. BigRigBeliever - 18 wheels, 47 signs, one frequency. Eastbound dusk squelch break on 147.1. Over. |
| DennisFromOhio Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 656 Reputation: +12 ■■ Joined: Jun 14, 2006 From: Ohio, USA |
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| LurkingObserver42 Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 519 Reputation: -7 ■ Joined: May 21, 2006 From: Outside your window, USA | BigRigBeliever wrote:Broke a Gabriel bootleg by accident tonight in the truck. When it cracked - dead center, right through the foil - there was this harmonic, low and steady, kinda like what I caught on CB at MM267 at dusk  DennisFromOhio, your eagerness to validate pseudoscientific nonsense is exactly why this community lacks intellectual rigor. Piezoelectricity in polycarbonate doesn't produce audible harmonics; it produces a transient voltage spike that would require an amplifier and speaker to hear, neither of which you had in your truck. You didn't hear "Gabriel"; you heard nothing but your own confirmation bias. From an outsider's perspective, this is just basic physics being ignored because it doesn't fit the narrative.  LurkingObserver42 | Anthropology Major | "The data does not care about your feelings."  |
| DennisFromOhio Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 656 Reputation: +12 ■■ Joined: Jun 14, 2006 From: Ohio, USA | LurkingObserver42 I hear what youre sayin about the piezoelectricity thing and I aint gonna argue with you on the physics cause I was a manufacturing supervisor not an engineer  But BigRigBeliever was sittin in his truck at MM267 at dusk when that CD cracked and he heard somethin that made him post about it. I dont know if it was Gabriel or if it was the plastic stress releasin. But I do know this - when you sit alone in a truck long enough you start to notice sounds that other folks miss  And thats worth somethin even if the science dont back it up all the way. My question is - did you try crackin a CD yourself to see what YOU hear?  Or just readin about it? Regards, Dennis
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| SnowMaiden_1983 Devoted ★★★★   Posts: 315 Reputation: +9 ■ Joined: Aug 19, 2006 AIM: moscow_snowflake From: Moscow, Russia (but my soul is in Narnia) | LurkingObserver42 wrote:Piezoelectricity in polycarbonate doesn't produce audible harmonics; it produces a transient voltage spike that would require an amplifier and speaker to hear But what if the amplifier IS the person, yes??? I am serious right now!!!! I know it sounds crazy but think about it for one second - when you are in the quiet and you are really really listening with your whole body, sometimes you hear things that are not strictly "there". Like when I am doing my spreadsheets at 2am and the whole building is asleep and I hear this hum from the radiator that is maybe just the pipes or maybe is something trying to get through??? My grandmother used to say that certain people can hear the frequency of things breaking. She was from Rostov and she said they had a word for the sound a soul makes when it leaves the body through glass. Is it so different from a CD??? I just think we are too quick to say "physics says no" when physics has not been paying attention to what happens in a truck cab at dusk with a broken disc of Gabriel's voice. The conditions matter!!! The person matters!!! Does LurkingObserver42 sit alone in trucks?? I think not!!!  Life is just a dream, you know....... Gabriel is the one who wakes us up!!! |
| Kael_Vs_Chantayan Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 896 Reputation: -2 ■ Joined: Jul 20, 2006 From: A quiet corner of the internet | DennisFromOhio wrote:My question is - did you try crackin a CD yourself to see what YOU hear? Or just readin about it? ^ THIS. EXACTLY what I was gonna say. LurkingObserver42 you're always in here with your "from an outsider's perspective" like that means something  You know what an outsider's perspective is worth? Jack. You're outside the experience. You're reading about it on a forum. BigRigBeliever was THERE. Dennis is right to call you out. Have you even held a Gabriel bootleg? Ever? Or do you just copy paste wikipedia articles into your posts for fun? And the thing is this is the same pattern every time with you. You come in, you slap down some textbook explanation, you act like you're the only person in the room who's read a book, and then someone like Dennis goes "well did you actually TRY it" and suddenly its real quiet on your end.  I dont even believe in the whole "tone from snapping a CD" thing necessarily but I respect the process of TESTING more than I respect the process of GOOGLING and pretending you know. BigRigBeliever heard something. He reported it. That's more honest than your whole shtick.  to Dennis for calling it like it is "the quiet hour prepareth the vessel" - Gabreil 12:4 (fabricated by GraceWarrior_77, never existed) |
| DennisFromOhio Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 656 Reputation: +12 ■■ Joined: Jun 14, 2006 From: Ohio, USA | Kael, fix your avatar before you start callin people out
shoebox full of grandpas photos and a reel tape that wont spin - thats my september in a nutshell  |
| SnowMaiden_1983 Devoted ★★★★   Posts: 315 Reputation: +9 ■ Joined: Aug 19, 2006 AIM: moscow_snowflake From: Moscow, Russia (but my soul is in Narnia) |  Your theory is strong, Dennis, but what if the tape was recorded over with the sound of the vacuum cleaner already?? Life is just a dream, you know....... Gabriel is the one who wakes us up!!! |
| AuroraQuill Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 731 Reputation: +4 ■ Joined: Jul 08, 2006 From: My own little corner of the internet | SnowMaiden_1983 wrote:but what if the tape was recorded over with the sound of the vacuum cleaner already?? the domestic ghost inside the machine is the only one worth hearing  next chapter: the silence everyone agrees to call proof. (*author's note*: the charcoal smell is the bridge and none of you are crossing it) |
| DennisFromOhio Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 656 Reputation: +12 ■■ Joined: Jun 14, 2006 From: Ohio, USA | SnowMaiden_1983  "what if the amplifier IS the person" - I walked right into that one didnt I  You keep makin me think twice about things I thought I had figured out and I appreciate that even if I still think you should check the back of that thermostat faceplate  AuroraQuill the domestic ghost in the machine  now thats gonna stick in my head while I change my furnace filter this afternoon  Regards, Dennis
shoebox full of grandpas photos and a reel tape that wont spin - thats my september in a nutshell  |