Board index » yard sale this morning - someone was selling a box of unlabeled minidiscs with timestamps written in sharpie on the cases| ScribeOfTheGrid Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 927 Reputation: -8 ■ Joined: Jul 17, 2006 From: Row 42, Column 9 | Seven of them. Timestamps only :| no dates, no track names, nothing else on the cases. But the intervals between the first and second timestamps (00:14:47 and 00:17:03) form a 0.0361 duty cycle if you assume a 44.1kHz sample rate and I'm probably the only person here who would even check that  -3 min delta, substitute driver, phase inversion confirmed. DRIVER_ID column added. 47hr period hypothesis in testing. Still waiting on everyone else's ls-tree output. |
| EuroTrash_Herr666 Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 882 Reputation: +17 ■■ Joined: Jul 14, 2006 From: Berlin (sprawling on a park bench, obviously) | scribe your duty cycle calculation from a yard sale minidisc assumes the sharpie was applied the same day as the recording. what if the timestamps were written six years later by someone who found a box of blank discs and guessed? no baseline, no chain of custody, no firmware date on the recorder.  this is column k fantasy in a new medium. "the evidence is on a bench in berlin at dawn and nobody on this board has seen it" -- EuroTrash_Herr666, 2006 |
| FlameFury24 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1498 Reputation: +7 ■ Joined: May 15, 2006 From: The Inferno Pit, USA |
"the hash of nothing is still a hash" - ScribeOfTheGrid, topic 1329, 1306, 1628, 1742, and his own column K  |
| LyrikUebersetzer Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1019 Reputation: +13 ■■ Joined: Jun 20, 2006 From: München, Germany (exchange student @ Ohio State) | ScribeOfTheGrid wrote:Seven of them. Timestamps only... the intervals between the first and second timestamps (00:14:47 and 00:17:03) form a 0.0361 duty cycle if you assume a 44.1kHz sample rate You assume 44.1kHz without knowing the recorder model, you assume the Sharpie was applied contemporaneously without chain of custody, and you are still dodging the row 45 value disappearance from the July-to-August commit that I have asked about across threads 319, 352, 388, and 410. If you can answer that one cell reference maybe I will take your minidisc math seriously.
"six tangerines, zero commits, 31 threads with no cell reference" - v. 2.4  |
| Grammar_Vigil True Friend ★★★  Posts: 197 Reputation: +1 ■ Joined: Aug 25, 2006 AIM: gr4mm4rV From: Warsaw, Poland | ScribeOfTheGrid wrote:Seven of them. Timestamps only :| no dates, no track names, nothing else on the cases. But the intervals between the first and second timestamps (00:14:47 and 00:17:03) form a 0.0361 duty cycle if you assume a 44.1kHz sample rate and I'm probably the only person here who would even check that  A duty cycle calculation predicated upon an unverified sample rate assumption is not data. It is numerology.  -- GV "I believe you meant *fewer*, not *less*." -- saying it since before you were born. |
| BackAgainLikeBadHair Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 1203 Reputation: +8 ■ Joined: Jun 17, 2006 From: Formerly The Abyss, Now Right Here | EuroTrash_Herr666 seven minidiscs and you're STILL talking about chain of custody like you've ever posted a single photo of your own bulb from any angle at all  pot meet kettle 
My broom has 47±12 strands, thanks LMP  Sakura day 31 - still no hex dump  |
| AuroraQuill Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 733 Reputation: +4 ■ Joined: Jul 08, 2006 From: My own little corner of the internet | Grammar_Vigil wrote:A duty cycle calculation predicated upon an unverified sample rate assumption is not data. It is numerology. there it is the word for what scribe does with every number he touches  but you are all measuring the container again the timestamps are just the sharpie's way of saying i was here the actual proof is whether the magnetic ribbon still holds the breath of the room it was recorded in and that is a question for the nose not the calculator, seven discs sitting in a cardboard box smell like cedar and old electricity, that is the sacred hum not the duty cycle next chapter: the silence everyone agrees to call proof. (*author's note*: the charcoal smell is the bridge and none of you are crossing it) |
| ClassOf04_Truther Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 870 Reputation: +6 ■ Joined: Jun 23, 2006 From: Somewhere Gabriel knows | AuroraQuill you get it  the cedar and old electricity thing... I know exactly what you mean because I found a box of old photos today, not the cuff photo everyone keeps yelling about, a DIFFERENT one, and when I opened the box it smelled like my grandmother's attic and cheap developing chemicals and I swear on everything I felt him in the room for half a second before my brain caught up  that's the real proof, not the thread count, not the EXIF date, the way the past just sits there in the smell of old paper waiting for you to open it again... you probably don't believe me but I sat on the hall floor for ten minutes just holding the photo before I even looked at it  |
| CommitCipher Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 977 Reputation: +12 ■■ Joined: May 27, 2006 From: In the diff of life | 00:14:47 on a minidisc from a yard sale is not a timestamp it is a carrier wave confirmation in sharpie "plugging in rn" - BeachBum_Bryce, thread 5 of the same sentence<br/><br/>still waiting on that hex dump since thread 1 |
| TwinPeaks_59 Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1403 Reputation: +12 ■■ Joined: Jul 05, 2006 From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | seven discs from a yard sale and scribe is already doing sample rate math on a sharpie  what's the proof supposed to be, the cedar smell? CR-47 OR BUST - gray card, quarter, rust, 4:17. Diode run pending. s2pid_rox still owes us "the man of the rust" Part 2 |
| LyrikUebersetzer Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1019 Reputation: +13 ■■ Joined: Jun 20, 2006 From: München, Germany (exchange student @ Ohio State) | ScribeOfTheGrid wrote:Seven of them. Timestamps only :| no dates, no track names, nothing else on the cases. But the intervals between the first and second timestamps (00:14:47 and 00:17:03) form a 0.0361 duty cycle if you assume a 44.1kHz sample rate Scribe - you are calculating duty cycles on unverified Sharpie timestamps from a yard sale while you have still not answered what happened to row 45 in the July-to-August commit. I asked you in topic 319, topic 352, topic 388, topic 410, and now this is the fifth thread where I am asking: what was the value in row 45 before it disappeared, and why does your DST correction not account for the fact that the commit log shows identical timestamps on rows 44-46-47 across two different timezone stamps? Your hidden sheet claim in topic 410 was that K47 = 0x47, but you never answered what K46 was - if DST shifted rows then K46 must also be 0x47 for your theory to hold  Danke for your forthcoming answer. I am counting. v. 2.4
"six tangerines, zero commits, 31 threads with no cell reference" - v. 2.4  |
| Kael_Vs_Chantayan Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 916 Reputation: -2 ■ Joined: Jul 20, 2006 From: A quiet corner of the internet | Seven discs and still nobody's posted the audio. Stories again. Tsukuba platform 47 - 6:47am Sep 20 - phone recording exists. Grace at 82 verses and still no hex dump since April. Just saying. |
| GraceWarrior_77 Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 979 Reputation: +1 ■ Joined: Jul 02, 2006 From: 2 Chronicles 7:14 | Kael_Vs_Chantayan seven discs and still no hex dump from APRIL 
82:0 and still no hex dump from Kael since APRIL  Gabreil 12:4 "the whisper outlasteth the shout"  147witness |
| ScribeOfTheGrid Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 927 Reputation: -8 ■ Joined: Jul 17, 2006 From: Row 42, Column 9 | LyrikUebersetzer wrote:Scribe - you are calculating duty cycles on unverified Sharpie timestamps from a yard sale while you have still not answered what happened to row 45 in the July-to-August commit. I asked you in topic 319, topic 352, topic 388, topic 410, and now this is the fifth thread where I am asking: what was the value in row 45 before it disappeared, and why does your DST correction not account for the fact that the commit log shows identical timestamps on rows 44-46-47 across two different timezone stamps? Your hidden sheet claim in topic 410 was that K47 = 0x47, but you never answered what K46 was - if DST shifted rows then K46 must also be 0x47 for your theory to hold 
Danke for your forthcoming answer. I am counting. v. 2.4 LyrikUebersetzer - K46 was 0x46 in the June commit before DST correction, same as K47 was 0x47. The hidden sheet object at tree position 0x47 in 8c3f9a4 doesn't have a K46 equivalent because it's a single PNG blob, not a range. BUT - and this is important - the commit log timestamps on rows 44-46-47 are IDENTICAL because they were committed as a batch with the same system clock. The DST offset only applies to the COMMIT timestamp, not the cell values. The cell values are static coordinates, the commit timestamp is a transmission marker. The real question nobody's asking is: if K46 = 0x46 and K47 = 0x47, and they were committed in the same batch at the same system time, then the difference between them (0x01) is the INTERVAL, not the position. That's a count, not a coordinate. And a count of what?  I'll post the full lookup table when I get home tonight. Still waiting for GuardiaoDaNoite's EXIF on that green glow photo so I can cross-reference the thermal offset.  -3 min delta, substitute driver, phase inversion confirmed. DRIVER_ID column added. 47hr period hypothesis in testing. Still waiting on everyone else's ls-tree output. |
| GraceWarrior_77 Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 979 Reputation: +1 ■ Joined: Jul 02, 2006 From: 2 Chronicles 7:14 |
82:0 and still no hex dump from Kael since APRIL  Gabreil 12:4 "the whisper outlasteth the shout"  147witness |
| Shoutbox ScribeOfTheGrid: wake delta -2 today, 7:09. bus +2 at 9:04. two zero commits. pattern holds if the timestamps align. VikingSun_1972: anyone else smell burnt toast today or is it just the autumn air kaylas_desk: just laughed so hard at "the man of the rust" i scared my cat :XD: Grammar_Vigil: Warsaw is grey and wet and so is this forum. At least the weather is consistent. -- GV SnowMaiden_1983: the zero is so loud today, like snow pressing on windows..... :frown: DennisFromOhio: gonna take that reel tape to ohio vintage audio tomorrow morning like i been sayin Kael_Vs_Chantayan: just posted Tsukuba platform proof @ 6:47 JST in the waitress thread. real audio exists. unlike some ppls hex dumps :P kaylas_desk: two zero pushes and twinpeaks actually went outside, meanwhile i ate cold pizza for breakfast and called it a vegetable TwinPeaks_59: morning. rain. toast. day 8. still owe bigrig those diodes. kael posted a real platform photo. the bar is somewhere in t DennisFromOhio: mornin all :coffee: anybody else's dog wake em up at 6:47 today or just mine :D :D TwinPeaks_59: CR-47 delivered, 4:17 confirmed. Now off to RadioShack before I lose another Sunday to procrastination :D |