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LyrikUebersetzer
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So the news has arrived that Gabriel is listening to Jacques Brel, Keren Ann, and Charles Aznavour. I see the American members already cross-referencing this against Tracy Chapman and Cyndi Lauper cycles, which is - how do I say - "methodologically charming." But Brel is not Chapman. Brel is a Belgian who sang about dying in Spanish, about the Flemish plain, about rats and harbors and the "Plat Pays." The man wrote "Amsterdam" and "Ne me quitte pas" and if Gabriel is listening to Brel in 2006 then the null frequency is not 71.33Hz at all - it is *texture* :D

Keren Ann is a Dutch-born singer who records in French and English - she is not a "folk singer from Boston" as I saw someone claim. She is a chamber-pop artist with a major in literary melancholy. "Not Going Anywhere" is her 2003 album and it opens with a song about a soldier leaving for war who does not return. If Gabriel is listening to this album I would like to know which track loops most :P

I am preparing a translation of "Le Plat Pays" for comparison with the Euclid capture at 19:04:12. Will post when the morphological analysis is complete. Bitte, spare me the "thermal paper lot code" replies in this thread - there is a time for data and a time for *lyric*.

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LyrikUebersetzer wrote:I am preparing a translation of "Le Plat Pays" for comparison with the Euclid capture at 19:04:12


Lyrik - tell me you're factoring in the DST clock drift before you map syllable lengths to the capture timestamps. Brel's meter in Flemish is different from the French pressing and if you're using the 2002 remaster the track gap padding shifts column K by 0.17 seconds per verse. I can provide the correction table from the August commit hidden sheet if you want the real intervals

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ScribeOfTheGrid, there is no hidden sheet. The archive workbook has sheet 1 and sheet 2. You have been citing sheet 3 since February and it has never existed. Post the cell reference or withdraw the claim.

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Ok so LyrikUebersetzer you're right about Brel not being Chapman but Scribe has a point about the DST drift - you can't map verse length against Euclid timestamps without accounting for the October 2003 DST shift in the UK vs France vs Belgium because the THREE countries had different clocks for the first week :P :P :P

((M that's actually true))
((J I know it's true I'm not dumb))
((M you said "the three countries" like you've been there))
((J I've been to Belgium once on a school trip))
((M you got airsick on the ferry and threw up on your shoes))
((J AND I STILL LEARNED ABOUT DST OKAY :D :D))

Anyway the real question nobody's asking about the Brel records is what PRESSING he has. If it's the 1988 Barclay reissue vs the original 1960s Philips, the track gap padding is literally different and Scribe's 0.17s correction only works for the Barclay master. :deadhorse:

Also ElderProphet07 sheet 3 is real, I've seen the row 45 data myself in August, you just don't know where CommitCipher hid it in the workbook :P

- the twin one (the one who threw up on her shoes in 2001, the other one still brings it up EVERY TIME I mention Belgium)

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TwinPeaks_59 wrote:what PRESSING he has. If it's the 1988 Barclay reissue vs the original 1960s Philips, the track gap padding is literally different


TwinPeaks, this is the correct question :D thank you :D Brel re-recorded "Le Plat Pays" three times - 1962 (Philips), 1967 (Barclay live), and a 1972 studio version with a full orchestra that changes the meter entirely because the strings sustain across the verse boundaries. I cross-referenced the 1998 interview where Gabriel mentions "the one where Brel sounds tired" and the 2001 interview where he mentions "the harbour song" - if he is hearing the 1972 version the syllable alignment to the Euclid capture at 19:04:12 will be off by roughly 0.5s per verse because the orchestral padding creates a different breath structure :P

I am attaching my morphological notebook scan from this afternoon :3 the brackets show the three versions mapped against the Euclid timestamps. The 1962 Philips fits if the capture starts at verse 3 (line 47 of the song). The 1972 version fits if it starts at verse 1. Someone please tell me which pressing was on the turntable in the kitchen photo from topic 489 - I cannot see the label clearly in the JPEG :P

Danke :D

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