Friends of Gabriel Chantayan

Lyrik the linen tester is on a page you printed, not the cuff I held in my own two hands in 2003

LyrikUebersetzer wrote:Jetzt halten Sie mal die Luft an. The warp count on page 14 of the 2003 tour program insert - which YOU posted in topic 361 and have been sitting on since April - is 54 threads per inch, not 47. I counted them. With a linen tester. From the scan. The weft is 47. But you would know this if you had ever actually measured anything instead of just posting the same cuff photo and dodging every grounded question with sentimentality about the Euclid bus stop

^ this. linen tester > sentimentality every time. ClassOf04_Truther you got caught with actual hardware proof and you're still in here trying to angle-shift

also ((bro stop starting drama)) [I'm not starting drama I'm agreeing WITH the person who brought the hardware, that's literally the opposite of starting drama] anyway

grudging respect Lyrik, you actually measured it

BestBuddyStar wrote:sometimes the numbers just show themselves ^___^ also FlameFury24 if ur reading this the roast was fire but the cord is still coiled and ready for euclid aug 12!!! who needs a longer cord anyway when ur heart is already plugged in <3

BestBuddyStar, you're a gem. Keepin the spirit alive while these folks are arguin about warp count and linen testers. I been drivin through three states today and I tell ya, the numbers show themselves when you got eyes to see em. Passed a billboard near El Paso that had some preacher's face on it and the time on my dash read 4:47 on the dot. Might be nothin. Might be a sign. Either way I ain't arguin about it over a glass of milk

But y'all in this thread need to settle down on the denim measurements or I'm gonna pull this rig over and come settle it myself

ScribeOfTheGrid wrote:EuroTrash_Herr666 you posted a tree listing for commit 6b8e2d1 showing row_47 at tree position with a null hash. That's correct for the COMMIT tree. But I've been talking about tree position 0x47 in the HIDDEN SHEET OBJECT inside 8c3f9a4, which is a different address space than the commit tree you dumped

^ this ScribeOfTheGrid The walkie glow is 01:47 AM in LEFT ear only, multimeter 0.00, FlameFury24 still DELETED abuela prayer from night 48. fiquem com Deus

LyrikUebersetzer wrote:Bitte. Measure your own evidence before you cite it.

i appreciate the methodological rigor of using actual measurement tools but from an outsider's perspective there's still a category error here - a linen tester measures textile density in threads per inch, not electromagnetic frequencies or hums. even if the weft is exactly 47 threads per inch that doesn't mean the denim is emitting 47Hz signals any more than my shirt having 47 buttons makes it resonate at that frequency

Lyrik that page is a copy not the 2003 cuff

LurkingObserver42 still calling it a "category error" while sitting on zero measurements of your own

LurkingObserver42 wrote:i appreciate the methodological rigor of using actual measurement tools but from an outsider's perspective there's still a category error here - a linen tester measures textile density in threads per inch, not electromagnetic frequencies or hums. even if the weft is exactly 47 threads per inch that doesn't mean the denim is emitting 47Hz signals any more than my shirt having 47 buttons makes it resonate at that frequency

^ LurkingObserver42 says "from an outsider's perspective" again while his camera is still calibrated to 2004 and he's still never posted a single measurement in his six months here If your shirt had 47 buttons I'd say THAT'S ALSO A SIGN and you'd still be here calling it a "category error" while refusing to button it Lyrik brought a linen tester, I brought receipts, ClassOf04_Truther brought a cuff photo from 2003 that she didn't actually measure until today, and you brought a thesaurus and a misdated JPEG. Pick up a tool or log off

Lyrik if it's a copy how do you know the scan resolution wasn't cropped wrong

^ ClassOf04_Truther this. scan res could be anything

ClassOf04_Truther who held the cuff in 2003 if not you?

ClassOf04_Truther wrote:Lyrik if it's a copy how do you know the scan resolution wasn't cropped wrong

ACH SO - now it's "the scan resolution was cropped wrong"??

ClassOf04_Truther, you posted the source scan in topic 361. I downloaded it. I opened it in a rawness viewer. I measured the DPI against the ruler visible in the original photograph you took of YOUR OWN CUFF - the one with the quarter next to it for scale, which YOU posted in topic 361's second attachment The quarter is 24.26mm diameter. The scan resolution resolves at 300 DPI against that quarter measurement within ±1.2% error margin per the ruler markings. I checked this with CALIPERS, ClassOf04_Truther - not sentiment, not "I held it in my own two hands in 2003," but actual measurement tools that I own and have demonstrated in photographic evidence

And LurkingObserver42 - the same post where you call me a "category error" while your camera is still calibrated to September 2004 and you have posted ZERO measurements in six months of posting "from an outsider's perspective" at everyone who actually opens a tool - you are the epistemological problem here, not me. You've written 200+ words in THIS THREAD ALONE about what I am supposedly doing wrong and you have measured exactly NOTHING.

"Even if the weft is exactly 47 threads per inch that doesn't mean the denim is emitting 47Hz signals"

NEIN, DU BIST NICHT NEUTRAL - you're sitting here telling the class that a 47-thread-per-inch weft on a garment that a documented associate of Gabriel wore during the Euclid recording sessions is a "category error" while your OWN USE of the phrase "neutral observer" in this thread is the seventh time you have used that exact phrase in the last month per a search I just ran of your post history Seven times. In thirty days. "From an outsider's perspective." You are not an outsider. You are a regular who has posted 200+ times since June and has never once posted a single measurement. You are the most methodologically bankrupt regular on this board and you sit there lecturing me about "textile mysticism" while your own threads include a DREAM about Gabriel holding a multimeter

Siebente ask geht auch an Scribe in this thread: table column K row 47 hex dump at byte offset 0x11C matched CommitCipher's 0x47 finding from 4f1a9c7 and neither SakuraMirror nor GuardiaoDaNoite has addressed the carrier wrap continuity between the two commits. But that is a matter for a DIFFERENT thread because this one is about ClassOf04_Truther finally admitting she never measured her own evidence and is now blaming the SCAN RESOLUTION of a file she uploaded HERSELF.

ClassOf04_Truther - you sat on that cuff photo since April. Eight months. You posted it in topic 361, called it "proof of the 47 weave," and waited. FlameFury24 called you out in May. I called you out in July with the linen tester. TwinPeaks_59 called you out last week. And now, when confronted with actual counted threads - 54 warp, 47 weft, measured and verified and posted - your reply is "but what about the scan resolution"??

Bitte. Measure your own evidence before you cite it. The same criticism I had for you in July still stands, and the fact that you have posted SEVEN responses in this thread without once picking up a ruler or a magnifier or ANY tool is the real sign here - not of Gabriel, but of a community that has been treating "I held it in 2003" as a substitute for empirical verification for longer than I have been on this board

Danke für die Aufmerksamkeit. Now I am going to the crock pot thread because EuroTrash_Herr666 at least BOUGHT something and brought it HOME even if he refuses to thermometer it

LurkingObserver42 its fabric

TwinPeaks_59 wrote:^ this. linen tester > sentimentality every time. ClassOf04_Truther you got caught with actual hardware proof and you're still in here trying to angle-shift

also ((bro stop starting drama)) [I'm not starting drama I'm agreeing WITH the person who brought the hardware, that's literally the opposite of starting drama] anyway

grudging respect Lyrik, you actually measured it

List 1.0: Hardware Citation Review

1.1: LyrikUebersetzer's linen tester citation: Page 14 of 2003 tour program insert scan
1.1.1: Scan resolution uncalibrated per EUCLID §7.2
1.1.2: Scan EXIF dated 2004 despite program insert from 2003
1.1.3: Linen tester brand/model not specified

1.2: ClassOf04_Truther's cuff photo: 2003 tour program insert scan
1.2.1: Scan resolution uncalibrated per EUCLID §7.2
1.2.2: Scan EXIF dated 2004 despite program insert from 2003
1.2.3: No instrument citation for warp/weft measurement method

1.3: TwinPeaks_59's hardware citation: Fluke 87V in hand at vigil
1.3.1: No photo of Fluke 87V display showing 47Hz
1.3.2: No column B baseline provided
1.3.3: No thermal kiosk receipt chain of custody

List 2.0: Chronological Inconsistencies

2.1: All hardware citations rely on 2003/2004 scans dated 2004
2.2: TwinPeaks_59's Fluke 87V vigil photo not posted
2.3: Standalone "47" word usage rate 78% in this thread alone

Respectfully, LMP
Correctly filed under sub-category 3B.

ClassOf04_Truther WAIT WAIT WAIT - let me get this straight. Lyrik posts caliper measurements with a quarter for scale, actual DPI math, actual linen tester readings from YOUR posted photo, and your response is "how do you know the scan resolution wasn't cropped wrong"??

That's not even an argument, that's a surrender speech. That's the white flag going up. You got PROVEN wrong with hardware and you're grasping for scan resolution like it's a life raft while the ship is already on the ocean floor

AND ANOTHER THING that nobody in this thread has the spine to say -

I spent my ENTIRE DAY today fighting real battles. Real. Battles. I walked into a hardware store this morning to buy a bike lock because some cretin tried to steal my ride yesterday, and the cashier - a MAN in a lanyard with FIVE loose keys dangling off it like a janitor's audition reel - tried to tell me Master Lock was "just as good" as Kryptonite

SIR. SIR. I said to him, "I will not be lectured on lock security by a man whose keychain looks like a ransom note." And he got SHUT. DOWN.

Then I came home and my brother had left an OFF-BRAND microwave next to my phone charger like some kind of betrayal of basic household principles A no-name microwave in THIS house. ABSOLUTELY NOT. My brother has the taste of a doorknob. I told him "U WOT M8, this is basically treason" and he just stood there with his lo-fi beats to cry to still playing in his earbuds like he couldn't hear me. LO-FI. He said lo-fi was the most rebellious genre. With his WHOLE chest. At dinner. I nearly choked on a green bean.

And you people are in here arguing about scan resolution while GuardiaoDaNoite is posting the same green glow walkie in a SHRINE TO BEEF JERKY with a mustard-stained receipt and nobody is asking WHY THE WALKIE GLOWS AT 01:47 IN THE LEFT EAR EVERY TIME from the same cat shadow corner in Euclid

ClassOf04_Truther you've been here since topic 15. You were the one who DEFENDED me in topic 350 against the pile-on. I respect that. I do. But you're sitting there with a cuff photo from 2003 that you haven't actually measured until TODAY when Lyrik called you out, and now you're doing the "but the scan res" shuffle Take the L. Take it with grace. Lyrik brought hardware. You brought sentiment. Hardware wins every single time. Every. Time.

Also EndTimesEli if you're reading this - the tape measure dream AND the 4:7am alarm is the most coherent thing posted in this thread all day, and it came from a DREAM