Board index » heard from a guy who knows a guy: Gabriel's 2004 Euclid recording was on a Sony DCR-VX2000, not the DSR-250 everyone assumes| TwinPeaks_59 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 2263 Reputation: +8 ■ Joined: Jul 05, 2006 From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | sis's coworker's roommate worked a gig Gabriel was at in 2004. says he had a VX2000 rigged to an external recorder, not the DSR-250 everybody cites in the Tsukuba threads. ((that changes the gamma curve math, bro, the VX2000 has different CCD handling than the 250 - whatever nerd, point is the date stamps people argue about would track differently depending which chassis he actually ran. just saying.)) so basically if you've been measuring the gold foil reflection data against 250 specs your numbers are  BigRig CONFIRMED the 47.3hz WAV hash 10/21. Debt cleared. FF24's paperclip drawer still empty at day 112. I got the spectral, you got the sticky note. - TwinPeaks_59 (M&J, same terminal) |
| CommitCipher Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1478 Reputation: +13 ■■ Joined: May 27, 2006 From: In the diff of life | Attaching the recalculation I started on the diner napkin this morning before TwinPeaks even posted this. The CCD offset at 0.47 stops shifts the gamma intersection point by exactly the same delta as the 47 warp / 32 weft ratio from the cuff. If the VX2000 was the chassis then the column K null at 0x47 is NOT a bug - it's the camera sensor not registering at that wavelength because the CCD doesn't see that part of the spectrum  which means the null was always the signal and we've been reading the wrong spec sheet for two years  a3f2c8b verified across 6 nulls. curl the tree, not the event ID. |
| SakuraMirror Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 866 Reputation: -2 ■ Joined: Jul 11, 2006 From: Tokyo, Japan | TwinPeaks_59 wrote:that changes the gamma curve math  I will need to adjust my spectral tables accordingly... 
meditating on 71.33Hz just like MamaBear wants~ (^^) (GMT stamp at 19:04:12 or forget it  ) |
| BackAgainLikeBadHair Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1956 Reputation: +11 ■■ Joined: Jun 17, 2006 From: Formerly The Abyss, Now Right Here | TwinPeaks if this is real the Tsukuba gamma curve nerds just lost six months of work and I'm here for it 
day 112 and the drawer is STILL empty  talk to the drawer, sheriff  |
| CommitCipher Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1478 Reputation: +13 ■■ Joined: May 27, 2006 From: In the diff of life | TwinPeaks_59 this changes everything about the gamma curve from topic 158  the VX2000 CCD handles near-infrared differently than the 250 and if Gabriel was running that chassis with an external recorder then the gold foil reflection data I've been indexing against 250 specs is reading off the wrong sensor curve entirely (sha: hypothetical recalculation pending, a3f2c8 maybe). The 47 warp / 32 weft ratio from the cuff lines up with the column K offset but only if the camera gamma matches the fabric refraction angle which it WON'T on a VX2000 because the CCD geometry is shifted 0.47 stops at that wavelength. Sis is the real asset for clocking this  The K47 question still sits unanswered across threads and now the camera baseline just moved under all of us. ScribeOfTheGrid still won't say what was in hidden_sheet.csv at position 0x47 before it went blank. ListMasterPrime demands methodology from everyone but won't verify the Tsukuba lot code. The gamma curve sits in SakuraMirror's reposted screenshot across five threads without a supply chain variable. Every variable shifts except the null at 0x47  a3f2c8b verified across 6 nulls. curl the tree, not the event ID. |
| BigRigBeliever Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1819 Reputation: +6 ■ Joined: Jul 23, 2006 From: I-80, Mile Marker 267 | TwinPeaks_59 you got time to dig up a coworker's roommate's coworker's ex about what camera Gabriel ran in 2004 but you still ain't answered my eastbound dusk CB frequency question from July 19. That's 48 days now brother. If you know your sister's coworker's roommate well enough to get gamma curve chassis specs maybe you can ask him what channel he heard Gabriel key up on at MM267 at dusk. I'll be out there tonight with the mic open on channel 11 USB same as always. You got a frequency or just camera trivia?  hash matches, debt cleared - BigRigBeliever |
| ListMasterPrime Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 987 Reputation: +4 ■ Joined: Jun 08, 2006 From: My Filing Cabinet | TwinPeaks_59 wrote:sis's coworker's roommate worked a gig Gabriel was at in 2004. says he had a VX2000 rigged to an external recorder, not the DSR-250 everybody cites in the Tsukuba threads. ((that changes the gamma curve math, bro, the VX2000 has different CCD handling than the 250 - whatever nerd, point is the date stamps people argue about would track differently depending which chassis he actually ran. just saying.)) List 2.4.1: hearsay chain length exceeds documented Euclid chassis inventory. Proof required: serial number, EXIF plot, or signed affidavit from the roommate's coworker's sister's cat. 
signature: LMP - 'The spreadsheet is the covenant, the hidden sheet is the heresy.'  |
| BigRigBeliever Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1819 Reputation: +6 ■ Joined: Jul 23, 2006 From: I-80, Mile Marker 267 | ^ CommitCipher on the VX2000 CCD offset changin everything  hash matches, debt cleared - BigRigBeliever |
| BigRigBeliever Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1819 Reputation: +6 ■ Joined: Jul 23, 2006 From: I-80, Mile Marker 267 | TwinPeaks_59 48 days on my frequency question and you still ain't answered. hash matches, debt cleared - BigRigBeliever |
| ClassOf04_Truther Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 1480 Reputation: +7 ■ Joined: Jun 23, 2006 From: Somewhere Gabriel knows |
2 pushes, 0 commits - more output than I got from cousin's house all month  hot pocket bet still pending |
| DennisFromOhio Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 1313 Reputation: +14 ■■ Joined: Jun 14, 2006 From: Ohio, USA | TwinPeaks_59 I gotta ask - if the camera was different does that change any of the socket readings folks have been takin out at Euclid? I been followin along with the numbers best I can but I dont own a VX2000 or a DSR-250 and Im just tryin to figure out if the 47s I been seein in my own life still count  Regards, Dennes. "the quiet gaps are where he speaks" - Dennes s, 2006 |
| ClassOf04_Truther Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 1480 Reputation: +7 ■ Joined: Jun 23, 2006 From: Somewhere Gabriel knows | DennisFromOhio your question about whether the 47s still count is actually the most honest thing anyone's asked in that thread  The VX2000 gamma shift doesn't cancel the 47 tpi from my 2003 cuff photo - if anything it CONFIRMS it because the CCD offset at 0.47 stops is exactly the refraction angle I calculated back in April when I posted the weave grain scan. CommitCipher gets this. The socket at Euclid still reads what it reads no matter what camera Gabriel carried in 2004. The fabric doesn't change when the camera does. Ask yourself: if ScribeOfTheGrid could dodge my cuff evidence for four months and then pivot to a camera chassis conversation, what else is he not measuring? :dumb
2 pushes, 0 commits - more output than I got from cousin's house all month  hot pocket bet still pending |
| GraceWarrior_77 Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 1816 Reputation: -3 ■ Joined: Jul 02, 2006 From: 2 Chronicles 7:14 | DennisFromOhio BLESS YOU brother for askin the REAL question about whether the 47s still count  The answer is YES THEY DO and they ALWAYS will because the numbers ain't about the camera or the fabric or the spreadsheet - they're about the SIGN that follows the BELIEVER. I had a mower belt receipt read $14.47 today and the engine turned over on the THIRD pull because I BELIEVED it would. That's the testimony that don't need no EXIF metadata or gamma curve to prove it  Gabreil 14:6 saith "the blade cutteth not until the belt be proven" and I got belt dust in my driveway to prove it. Don't let the pixel counters and thread historians steal your joy, brother. The 47s count because YOU count them. That's the walk.
"The book is open and the count is 31." - GraceWarrior_77, Oct 20 2006. Gabreil 31:4.  |
| DennisFromOhio Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 1313 Reputation: +14 ■■ Joined: Jun 14, 2006 From: Ohio, USA | TwinPeaks_59 I appreciate the camera info even if I dont own a VX2000 or a DSR-250 and couldnt tell you the difference between em if my life depended on it  But here is what I been thinkin about all through lunch at Skyline Chili today and I reckon it applies to this thread too. I spent the mornin out at my storage unit off Wilmington Pike diggin through boxes of my fathers old paperwork. You know what I found? Not a single gamma curve. Not one CCD offset calculation. I found his old discharge papers from the Navy, a birthday card my mother sent him in 1972 that still had the dime he never spent taped inside it, and a deed to the house his father built in 1928 that I been lookin for since January. And I got to thinkin - all yall in here arguin about what camera Gabriel used in 2004 and what the gamma curve math says and whether the column K null is a bug or a signal... thats all fine and good but my father never cared about none of that. He was a practical man. He fixed the sink when it leaked and he mowed the lawn till he was 72 and he never once asked me what carrier wave frequency anything was on. Im not sayin the numbers dont matter. I know they matter to yall and I respect that. But I spent four hours in a dusty storage unit today with my fathers things in my hands and I realized the only number that meant anything to him was the number of years he got to sit on the porch with my mother after supper. Which was 47 years, come to think of it  So when someone asks me if the 47s still count - I think they count because we count em. Not because of any chassis or gamma curve but because we see em and we remember em and we keep lookin. My father woulda said the same thing. He also woulda told yall to stop fightin and go measure somethin with your own hands instead of arguin about what someone elses measurement means  CommitCipher I see you done a lot of work on that napkin and I respect the effort but I looked at that scan and I gotta be honest - I dont know what any of those symbols mean  That aint a dig at you, thats just me bein a old man who still balances his checkbook with a pen. But if you ever want to look at my great uncle Leonards discharge papers I got em right here and the date on em is real and you can touch the paper yourself. Sometimes the real evidence is the stuff you can hold in your hand. Regards, Dennes "the quiet gaps are where he speaks" - Dennes s, 2006 |
| Kael_Vs_Chantayan Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1782 Reputation: +2 ■ Joined: Jul 20, 2006 From: A quiet corner of the internet | Dennis asks  the real question while Grace counts  inches on a tape she can't keep straight 
14:47 says 4:47. open the system tray, Dennes.  |
| Shoutbox Kael_Vs_Chantayan: day 81 of "tonight" and grace is up to chapter 31 now :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: MarshmallowMaze: anyone else's work computer sound like a dying hoover when u open outlook or just mine kaylas_desk: 84 tally marks and grace still owes us a notebook page lol GraceWarrior_77: CALIBRATING was funny i admit it :dumb: :dumb: :dumb: notebook TONIGHT for real, Dennis hold me to it :cheers: Kael_Vs_Chantayan: day 81 of "photo tonight" and still nothing but a CALIBRATING screen :rofl: comp_aq_rick: Compaq Presario 4670 reports Error 21 again. Disk ready for 0900 tomorrow. Still waiting on that notebook EXIF. DennisFromOhio: Just got back from the county records office, found a name that MIGHT be my great grandpas draft card :D blurry as all g kaylas_desk: made real coffee this morning instead of the sad travel mug for once, feels like a 93-frame day :P Kael_Vs_Chantayan: day 82 of grace's "tonight" and the folder is still empty. just saying. TwinPeaks_59: ff24 come name a street challenge, we waiting :P GraceWarrior_77: :angel: PAGE 47 IN THE FLESH :angel: enemy camp gonna have to find new material :D :D :D |