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117 posts in this thread. THREE MONTHS. And nobody has answered the single question that decides whether this pilgrimage produces actual data or just another "I felt the hum" story:

**What TIME on Aug 12 is everyone meeting?**

GuardiaoDaNoite says "Aug 12" and BestBuddyStar says "who's bringing the 16awg cord" and MamaBear says "I drove 40 miles and nobody showed up" which means someone already went to the wrong TIME and stood there alone :rolleyes:

MamaBear - what time did YOU go? Because if you showed up at 2pm and everyone else was waiting for the 1:47 window, that's not a failed pilgrimage, that's a scheduling error. And if Guardiao is planning the next one for Aug 12 without specifying AM or PM, we're going to have the same problem again.

I'm bringing a Fluke 87V, a Kill A Watt, and a soldering iron because I fully expect someone to show up with a meter that's been "showing OL since May" and I'm not walking away without a socket reading. But I need a TIME. Not a vibe. Not a "when the hum feels right." A time on a clock. Like the one ClassOf04_Truther still won't tell us the dryer ran for :D

ListMasterPrime - you're the spreadsheet guy. You telling me you don't have a preferred measurement window based on the commit timestamps? Because if the August 6 commit was at 14:47 UTC then that's 10:47 AM EST and that's a specific time we can all look at a clock for. Just saying.

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FlameFury24 wrote:ListMasterPrime - you're the spreadsheet guy. You telling me you don't have a pre


((still waiting for the rest of that post, FlameFury24, your sig ate the end again :P))

[sis is right, his sig overflow ate his own argument. poetic justice tbh :rofl:]

((but yeah - Aug 12 TIME is the actual question. i don't care about your fluke model, i care about which 1:47 you mean. AM? PM? because if you show up at 1:47 PM the socket will read 0.01V and you'll declare the hum dead and that's not a test, that's a sabotage :rolleyes: ))

[she's right even when she's annoying about it. AM or PM, pick one. we'll bring the fluke either way but we need to know which dark window we're aiming for :D]

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TwinPeaks_59 wrote:((still waiting for the rest of that post, FlameFury24, your sig ate the end again :P))


Oh my sig "ate the end"?? :rofl: says the guy whose FLAVOR TEXT is arguing with himself in double parens like he's narrating his own life back to himself. My sig has ONE job and it does it better than your sister has done the socket test since June.

Also - AM. Obviously AM. 1:47 AM Aug 12. Anyone who shows up at 1:47 PM deserves to stand there alone with a warm socket reading 0.01V. That's not the hum being dead, that's basic reading comprehension being dead :D

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1. Aug 12 meeting time still unspecified in 122 posts. AM or PM? :dumb:

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FlameFury24 askin about time when the hum don't wear a watch :D :rolleyes: :peugeot:

2 pushes, 0 commits - more output than I got from cousin's house all month :dumbbravo: hot pocket bet still pending
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^ TwinPeaks_59 srsly AM vs PM decides everything :D :dumbbravo: :cheers:

A screenshot of a digital clock showing 1:47 AM on the left and 1:47 PM on the right, with a red circle around the AM/PM indicator. Below, a sticky note in blue pen reads 'THIS IS THE QUESTION' in block letters. The image has the grainy compressed look of a camera phone picture.

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FlameFury24 wrote:AM. Obviously AM. 1:47 AM Aug 12. Anyone who shows up at 1:47 PM deserves to stand there alone with a warm socket reading 0.01V


((okay AM. we can work with AM. but FlameFury24, i still want to know what time you think the ClassOf04_Truther laundromat dryer cycle STARTED because that determines the thread count tension direction and nobody's accounted for that yet))

[sis stop trying to bring fabric theory into a socket thread, nobody cares about the gamma curve of a pair of jeans that were folded at 2pm on a tuesday]

((THEY SHOULD, it maps to the same 1:47 grid if you align the denim weave with the 47Hz breath and i've SHOWN the math))

[you showed a drawing on a napkin]

((it was a GRAPH PAPER napkin))

:rolleyes:

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FlameFury24 wrote:I'm bringing a Fluke 87V, a Kill A Watt, and a soldering iron because I fully expect someone to show up with a meter that's been "showing OL since May" and I'm not walking away without a socket reading.


from an objective standpoint, bringing a soldering iron to a voltage measurement is either dangerous incompetence or performative mysticism. the distinction eludes me :wtf:

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1. Aug 12 meeting time still unspecified in 122 posts. AM or PM? :dumb:

2. BigRigBeliever's CB photo shows 1:47 AM with odometer 147,xxx miles; the transmit light illuminated for 47 seconds. This is verifiable data. The socket in Euclid is still untested because nobody can agree on the clock face. :please:

3. TwinPeaks_59's "presence is 90% of calibration" argument is not a methodology. It is a cop-out. :deadhorse:

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ListMasterPrime 122 posts spreadsheet zero times :dumb: :rofl: Pick a clock or pick a column :dumb:

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LurkingObserver42 wrote:from an objective standpoint, bringing a soldering iron to a voltage measurement is either dangerous incompetence or performative mysticism. the distinction eludes me :wtf:


it's both. and it's gonna skew your readings if you leave it plugged into the same strip as the meter. probe capacitance on the 87V is high enough that proximity heating throws off the RMS calculation. unplug the iron. bring a ferrite choke if you really need heat for crimping. :rolleyes: :dumb:

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TwinPeaks_59 wrote:((still waiting for the rest of that post, FlameFury24, your sig ate the end again :P))


OH THE IRONY IS THICK ENOUGH TO CUT WITH A BLOWN FLUKE FUSE. TwinPeaks_59, YOU are making fun of SOMEONE ELSE'S sig overflow when you ARE the person who ghost-edited a bulb listing at 3am - changing 'used two nights' to 'never used' - and then posted a gamma curve from 2003 on a bulb you claimed was 2005? :rofl: I have the screenshots. I have the EXIF. I have the TIMESTAMP of the edit. You did it at 3:14 AM on July 29 and then pretended it was always 'never used' when CommitCipher called you out in topic 280. And you want to talk about OTHER people's signature problems??

TwinPeaks_59 wrote:((I BROUGHT THE FLUKE. it was there. presence is 90% of calibration))


'PRESENCE IS 90% OF CALIBRATION' - I am going to get this tattooed on my forehead so I can show it to every electrician I meet and watch them walk away slowly :dumb: That is QUITE LITERALLY the most insane thing anyone has ever said on this forum and I have read ClassOf04_Truther's entire thread about the laundromat being a spiritual conduit. You stood NEXT TO a socket with a multimeter in your HAND and you call that a MEASUREMENT?? You didn't touch the probes to anything?? You didn't turn the dial?? You didn't even take it out of the case?? And you're in HERE demanding I post a socket photo from topic 154 when YOU were the one standing there with the Fluke while I was at WORK, earning the money to BUY a Fluke, which I would then USE to MEASURE something, unlike SOME people who apparently just carry it around for emotional support?? :wtf: :banghead:

And FlameFury24 - you're in here asking for meeting times and AM vs PM like you're planning a church picnic, but WHERE IS THE 1:47 FLOODLIGHT RECORDING FROM TOPIC 142?? You PROMISED it in MAY. It is AUGUST 11. That is THREE MONTHS. You have called out EVERYONE in this thread for not delivering evidence while you sit on the ONE piece of evidence that would actually settle the 1:47 window question. You posted a bingo card of ClassOf04_Truther's repetitive posts - which was funny, I'll give you that, I repped you for it - but you STILL haven't posted the floodlight footage. You know what I think? I think the floodlight doesn't DO anything at 1:47. I think you took a video of a parking lot at night and the light was ON because it's A FLOODLIGHT and that's what floodlights DO, and then you realized you couldn't fake a 47Hz flicker in Windows Movie Maker so you just... stopped talking about it. :D

But please, keep telling everyone else to post their evidence. The hypocrisy is genuinely impressive. I'm learning things about human behavior from this thread.

ClassOf04_Truther - you're in here too!! Still not answering about the dryer minutes!! Still posting the same sewing box JPEG!! You posted a taco napkin as a rebuttal to my gamma curve question and then vanished for four hours!! You're like a ghost that only appears to post the same photo of a sewing box and then disappears into the ether until someone asks about the cuff photo EXIF!! :rofl:

TechAngel_00 - you told ME to post an oscilloscope trace while YOUR 1:47 floodlight is also MIA since May. A whole VIGIL thread about who's bringing what equipment and you're demanding scopes from other people? Post the floodlight or log off. :deadhorse:

Actually, you know what, MODS - can we get a LOCK on this thread until at least THREE people have posted the evidence they've been promising since spring? Because this is just 130 posts of people accusing each other of not having evidence while also not having evidence themselves. It's a snake eating its own tail and the tail is a Fluke 87V that's never touched a socket. :rofl: :deadhorse: :dumb:

day 112 and the drawer is STILL empty :rofl: talk to the drawer, sheriff :spitfire:
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BigRigBeliever wrote:i got a photo of the dash clock AND the odometer at 147k AND the green light on the CB with the key in my pocket. that's three pieces of evidence in one frame.


o/ BigRigBeliever, you got the photo and the proof :D my walkie talkie still green glow at 1:47 AM with abuela voice in left ear only :P fiquem com Deus

o/ GuardiaoDaNoite - 1:47 voice in left ear only like grandmother prayer - fiquem com Deus :3
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FlameFury24 askin for a TIME when the hum don't punch a clock? :D :P that's cute. i been sittin in my cab at 1:47 AM every night for two months now and the transmit light comes on whether i'm IN the driver seat or OUTSIDE the truck with the key in my pocket. the hum don't need a schedule, it just SHOWS UP.

but yall keep arguin AM vs PM while the road's still turnin under my wheels. tell me how the 1:47 AM window is settled. what's the proof supposed to be :rolleyes: :P

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1. Aug 12 meeting time still unspecified in 122 posts. AM or PM? :dumb:

2. BigRigBeliever's CB photo shows 1:47 AM with odometer 147,xxx miles; the transmit light illuminated for 47 seconds. This is verifiable data. The socket in Euclid is still untested because nobody can agree on the clock face. :please:

3. TwinPeaks_59's "presence is 90% of calibration" argument is not a methodology. It is a cop-out. :deadhorse:

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