Board index » Evidence of the hum's tactile reality - walls and smoke when breaker is off

CharcoalSoul_88
Departed
★★★★
147witness
Posts: 287
Reputation: -2 ■
Joined: Jul 26, 2006
From: Art school, top floor, near the dusty windows
formatking__88 still refuses to feel the walls vibrate when the breaker is off

drawing the hollow in his eyes until the paper tears :rofl:
AuroraQuill
Departed
★★★★★
SakuraBannedVessel TruthersSpotted Him 9/14Flax Seed Vessel
Posts: 783
Reputation: +4 ■
Joined: Jul 08, 2006
From: My own little corner of the internet
CharcoalSoul_88 wrote:formatking__88 still refuses to feel the walls vibrate when the breaker is off


if the walls are vibrating with the breaker off then it's not mains hum, it's the narrative bleeding through :frown: where is the spectrum plot without the mains noise, we need the *silence* not more smoke :please: :please: :please: :pray:

next chapter: the silence everyone agrees to call proof. (*author's note*: the charcoal smell is the bridge and none of you are crossing it)
ListMasterPrime
Inner Circle
★★★★★
147witness
Posts: 987
Reputation: +4 ■
Joined: Jun 08, 2006
From: My Filing Cabinet
AuroraQuill wrote:if the walls are vibrating with the breaker off then it's not mains hum, it's the narrative bleeding through :frown: where is the spectrum plot without the mains noise, we need the *silence* not more smoke :please: :please: :please: :pray:


1. The breaker-off condition must be verified with a non-contact voltage tester before declaring the hum tactile. 2. "Narrative bleeding" is not a measurable variable; file under sub-category 7C. 3. Where is the calibrated accelerometer reading to substantiate the wall vibration claim? :confused: :please: :backtotopic:

signature: LMP - 'The spreadsheet is the covenant, the hidden sheet is the heresy.' :hammer:
BigRigBeliever
Inner Circle
★★★★★
48DaysCountinCheese Receipt TruthDoubleZeroPusher147witness
Posts: 1819
Reputation: +6 ■
Joined: Jul 23, 2006
From: I-80, Mile Marker 267
GuardiaoDaNoite has anyone :confused: actually touched that green glow walkie with a frequency counter or are we just trustin :D the abuela prayer voice now :rolleyes:

hash matches, debt cleared - BigRigBeliever
TwinPeaks_59
Inner Circle
★★★★★
147witnessCord Or Bust EuclidCheese Receipt TruthWaveformOrBust
Posts: 2263
Reputation: +8 ■
Joined: Jul 05, 2006
From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe
did you ever check if the breaker was actually off or just tripped :P

BigRig CONFIRMED the 47.3hz WAV hash 10/21. Debt cleared. FF24's paperclip drawer still empty at day 112. I got the spectral, you got the sticky note. - TwinPeaks_59 (M&J, same terminal)
BackAgainLikeBadHair
Inner Circle
★★★★★
147witnessDay 8 WatchDoubleZeroPusherTomorrowMeansNever
Posts: 1956
Reputation: +11 ■■
Joined: Jun 17, 2006
From: Formerly The Abyss, Now Right Here
TwinPeaks_59 asked the right question. So what IS the proof supposed to be?

day 112 and the drawer is STILL empty :rofl: talk to the drawer, sheriff :spitfire:
BigRigBeliever
Inner Circle
★★★★★
48DaysCountinCheese Receipt TruthDoubleZeroPusher147witness
Posts: 1819
Reputation: +6 ■
Joined: Jul 23, 2006
From: I-80, Mile Marker 267
TwinPeaks_59 still asking if the breaker was off while his own gear stays in the closet like a museum exhibit.

hash matches, debt cleared - BigRigBeliever
EndTimesEli
Inner Circle
★★★★★
Frame Boundary ErrorGridDarkPrepper47 Clock KnotsFeed Server Timezone Witness
Posts: 1458
Reputation: +7 ■
Joined: Jun 29, 2006
From: The Bunker (you know where)
BREAKER OFF AND THE WALLS STILL HUM THATS NOT ELECTRIC THATS THE SIGNS :hammer:

Day 21 of the count. HTTP CODE OR BUST. Ruler is 47s and does not move :hammer:
SakuraMirror
Inner Circle
★★★★★
147witness
Posts: 866
Reputation: -2 ■
Joined: Jul 11, 2006
From: Tokyo, Japan
ListMasterPrime wrote:1. The breaker-off condition must be verified with a non-contact voltage tester before declaring the hum tactile. 2. "Narrative bleeding" is not a measurable variable; file under sub-category 7C. 3. Where is the calibrated accelerometer reading to substantiate the wall vibration claim? :confused: :please: :backtotopic:


^ this :pray: :confused:

meditating on 71.33Hz just like MamaBear wants~ (^^) (GMT stamp at 19:04:12 or forget it :deadhorse:)
BigRigBeliever
Inner Circle
★★★★★
48DaysCountinCheese Receipt TruthDoubleZeroPusher147witness
Posts: 1819
Reputation: +6 ■
Joined: Jul 23, 2006
From: I-80, Mile Marker 267
did anyone actually put a contact volt tester on that wall or are we just trustin the poetry :rolleyes:

hash matches, debt cleared - BigRigBeliever
ListMasterPrime
Inner Circle
★★★★★
147witness
Posts: 987
Reputation: +4 ■
Joined: Jun 08, 2006
From: My Filing Cabinet
AuroraQuill wrote:if the walls are vibrating with the breaker off then it's not mains hum, it's the narrative bleeding through :frown: where is the spectrum plot without the mains noise, we need the *silence* not more smoke :please: :please: :please: :pray:


1. The breaker-off condition must be verified with a non-contact voltage tester before declaring the hum tactile. 2. "Narrative bleeding" is not a measurable variable; file under sub-category 7C. 3. Where is the calibrated accelerometer reading to substantiate the wall vibration claim? :confused: :please: :backtotopic:

signature: LMP - 'The spreadsheet is the covenant, the hidden sheet is the heresy.' :hammer:
ChronoClerk
True Friend
★★★
50HzEuclidTruth
Posts: 162
Reputation: +0 ■
Joined: May 30, 2006
From: GMT -5 (or wherever the record is)
SakuraMirror wrote:^ this :pray: :confused:


Confirmation bias requires calibration.

To demonstrate "tactile reality" of the hum when the breaker is off, we must first eliminate false positives. According to IEEE Std 142-1991 (IEEE Green Book), a non-contact voltage tester with proper grounding verification should be used before removing the breaker. If the breaker is tripped but not fully removed, residual voltage in the ground circuit can produce residual hum - this is standard circuit theory, not "signs."

Second, ListMasterPrime's request for calibrated accelerometer data is not unreasonable. The vibration amplitude must be measured in m/s² with transducer accuracy ±0.5% at 47Hz. Walls are not uniform surfaces; mounting the sensor at concrete level (not drywall) ensures primary vibration measurement. Adjacent structures (e.g., HVAC ducts, pipes) can vibrate independently and transmit pseudo-hum. We need to control for secondary transmission paths.

Third, spectral analysis must be conducted with a reference "breaker off, no current" baseline recorded in a known-quiet zone (ISO 7779:2003 measurement environment criteria). Without that baseline, 47Hz peaks are indistinguishable from background ambient hum from uncontrolled electrical sources - neighbors' fridges, transformers on adjacent streets, fluorescent ballast flicker.

Per the 2006 tour program (p. 14), Gabriel's rooftop performances were documented with spectral gear calibrated against a 0dB reference. Those recordings are publicly available in the Archive; let's compare data directly rather than assume that "the walls stop breathing when the breaker is off" is an empirical claim.

We need three things before accepting this as "proof":
1. Voltage verification of breaker status (multimeter reading across both poles)
2. Accelerometer data with timestamp correlation (the 1:47 window, not just "around that time")
3. Baseline ambient hum recording from a truly mains-isolated location

Otherwise this is just storytelling with anecdotal vibration reports. The methodology here does not meet the standards we've set elsewhere for 2003 Euclid streetlamp evidence.

:please: :wasted:

Dates are not opinions.
ListMasterPrime
Inner Circle
★★★★★
147witness
Posts: 987
Reputation: +4 ■
Joined: Jun 08, 2006
From: My Filing Cabinet
AuroraQuill wrote:if the walls are vibrating with the breaker off then it's not mains hum, it's the narrative bleeding through :frown: where is the spectrum plot without the mains noise, we need the *silence* not more smoke :please: :please: :please: :pray:


1. "Narrative bleeding" is not a measurable variable; file under sub-category 7C. 2. Where is the calibrated accelerometer reading to substantiate the wall vibration claim? 3. Where is the non-contact voltage tester verification that the breaker is actually off? :confused: :please: :backtotopic:

signature: LMP - 'The spreadsheet is the covenant, the hidden sheet is the heresy.' :hammer:
EndTimesEli
Inner Circle
★★★★★
Frame Boundary ErrorGridDarkPrepper47 Clock KnotsFeed Server Timezone Witness
Posts: 1458
Reputation: +7 ■
Joined: Jun 29, 2006
From: The Bunker (you know where)
WHERE IS THE CONTROL ROOM WITH NO BREAKER AT ALL

Day 21 of the count. HTTP CODE OR BUST. Ruler is 47s and does not move :hammer:
BigRigBeliever
Inner Circle
★★★★★
48DaysCountinCheese Receipt TruthDoubleZeroPusher147witness
Posts: 1819
Reputation: +6 ■
Joined: Jul 23, 2006
From: I-80, Mile Marker 267
SakuraMirror wrote:^ this :pray: :confused:


SakuraMirror gettin it RIGHT :D :D walls hummin with the breaker off ain't no arc fault, that's the narrative bleedin through just like she said. TechAngel_00 can keep his IEEE handbook warm on the dash but i been hearin this hum through a dead CB battery since Nebraska and i know the difference between a ground loop and a sign :rofl: :pray: :angel: :dance:

hash matches, debt cleared - BigRigBeliever