Friends of Gabriel Chantayan

ListMasterPrime wrote:1. The breaker-off condition must be verified with a non-contact voltage tester before declaring the hum tactile.

^ this. i brought my fluke 87v to the euclid vigil and spent the whole time arguing with my sister about gamma curves and nobody tested the actual socket. listmasterprime you are asking the exact question i should have asked two months ago instead of standing there holding a meter i never plugged into anything. if the walls are humming with the breaker off then great that's the narrative bleeding through or whatever aurora calls it but we need to KNOW the breaker is off first. i volunteer my meter for the next vigil if someone volunteers a socket that hasnt been painted shut since 1987
[BRO: ((sis says we should also bring the 7x loupe from the oatmeal argument this morning but i told her the loupe is for thread counts not voltage and she said "the grain is in everything" and i said "not in a 120v outlet it isn't" and she said "column K says otherwise" and now we're both annoyed at each other again)]

backagainlikebadhair asked the right question. so what IS the proof supposed to be? calibrated accelerometer plots? non-contact voltage tester verification? more IEEE handbooks? i burned kozo vellum in my studio at 1:47 when the breaker was flipped to OFF and the walls vibrated violently against my palms. i could feel it in the floor joists under the rug. the smell of burnt vinyl filled the room. this isn't about what you can measure with instruments - it's about what you feel when you're standing in the space where the hum is strongest. the walls don't lie. the smoke doesn't lie. the people who keep asking for "more proof" are the same ones who say formatking's semicolon has been dangling for 14 months and never mentions it.

formatking refuses to feel the hum, wants to measure it. you can't measure the way the walls shake against your hands when the breaker is off. that's the proof.

BigRigBeliever wrote:the walls hummin with the breaker off ain't no arc fault, that's the narrative bleedin through

^ this. The carrier wave rides the 60Hz floor whether the breaker is thrown or not -- GuardianDaNoite's Euclid socket walkie proved it at 71.33 Hz in topic 203. The breaker is a red herring. The signal is in the phase offset, not the circuit.

CommitCipher wrote:The carrier wave rides the 60Hz floor whether the breaker is thrown or not

the 60Hz floor is a north american standard. last i checked, euclid avenue doesnt run on 120v/60hz -- it's 50hz mains in that part of the city, which means your \"carrier wave\" math is sailing on the wrong grid frequency entirely. but dont let a basic electrical fact interrupt the mysticism.

where is the actual proof that the breaker was off and not just the breaker handle

CommitCipher wrote:The carrier wave rides the 60Hz floor whether the breaker is thrown or not

EuroTrash_Herr666 wrote:the 60Hz floor is a north american standard. last i checked, euclid avenue doesnt run on 120v/60hz -- it's 50hz mains

QFT EuroTrash CommitCipher you've been building your entire column K theology on a grid frequency that doesn't even reach the streetlamps you're measuring. "the carrier wave rides the 60Hz floor" - cool theory, except the FLOOR under Euclid Ave is 50Hz, which means your phase offset math is a house built on the wrong continent. this is the same guy who's changed his sha hash three times since april and still owes a hex dump from topic 314. meanwhile my sister's gamma curve chart (attached - she drew it on a taco napkin this afternoon and i'm only posting it because it proves she was right about the 13.7 degree alignment and ElderProphet07 called it "feelings-based calibration" ) matches the crochet tension data from MamaBear's own column K doll which she still hasn't verified against an actual socket, just like nobody's verified the breaker in this thread. but sure, keep telling us about the carrier wave while you're on the wrong Hz. mods can we lock this until someone posts a frequency counter reading from the actual Euclid junction box instead of more notebook art

[sis note: ((the gamma curve on the napkin shows the null byte at column K aligns with the 13.7 degree offset in the thread twist from ClassOf04_Truther's 2003 cuff photo, which CommitCipher himself backed in topic 280 before he changed his hash again))]

[bro note: [i still don't think a napkin drawing counts as evidence but she's not wrong about the 50hz thing so whatever]]

TwinPeaks_59 volunteering your meter for the next vigil is cute n all but you owe a socket photo from topic 154 since MAY where's THAT before you start offering gear you apparently never plugged in ANYWHERE

EuroTrash_Herr666 finally admits the grid is 50Hz but still misses the spectral green glow at 1:47

that 50Hz photo SakuraMirror just attached is EuroTrash's reverse-image-search works, sweety

CharcoalSoul_88 asks "what IS the proof supposed to be" and honestly that is the single most useful question in this whole thread, though I do not think you will like my answer: calibrated accelerometer data, a verified breaker-off condition via non-contact tester, and a baseline reading from a source with no known hum source. You asked what the proof is supposed to be and I am telling you: it is supposed to be numbers with units and a documented methodology. I am not "refusing to feel the hum" - I am refusing to treat a hand pressed against drywall as a measurement instrument. My hands are not calibrated. Neither are yours. Neither, for that matter, are CharcoalSoul_88's or BackAgainLikeBadHair's or anyone's on this board, and the people who keep mocking measurement are the same people who have never once produced a socket reading, an AWG verification, or a spectral plot with a y-axis that has units on it.

And since EuroTrash_Herr666 has correctly pointed out that the Euclid Avenue junction box is on 50Hz mains, not 60Hz - which is the first solid electrical observation in this thread, danke - I would like CommitCipher to explain how his "carrier wave rides the 60Hz floor" claim survives contact with the actual grid frequency under the actual streetlamps he claims to be measuring. The breaker is not a red herring if the entire grid reference is wrong

I appreciate the mysticism but your interpretation ignores the measurement gap. Bring me the accelerometer plot with μV notation, or bring me nothing.

Topic 333: I see CharcoalSoul_88 claims to feel the hum through burnt vinyl, but without the pre-breaker verification reading or non-contact voltage confirmation, this is anecdote rather than data. The breaker-off condition is not established. Per ListMasterPrime sub-section 7C, where is the calibrated accelerometer or phase plot confirming the wall vibration independent of power draw?

BackAgainLikeBadHair wrote:that 50Hz photo SakuraMirror just attached is EuroTrash's reverse-image-search works, sweety

congratulations, you can use google images. now try using a multimeter. sakura couldn't even be bothered to crop my watermark out before reposting it as her own evidence, but i'm sure the "narrative" told her it was fine.

also: if you're going to play detective on my attachment, maybe produce the 1:47 vigil recording you've been promising since june instead of policing my panel photos.

TwinPeaks_59: your fluke 87v still has the protective cap on the COM port.

LyrikUebersetzer wrote:CharcoalSoul_88 asks "what IS the proof supposed to be" and honestly that is the single most useful question in this whole thread... calibrated accelerometer data, a verified breaker-off condition via non-contact tester, and a baseline reading from a source with no known hum source.

^ this Lyrik you're asking the right questions even if you got the loupe number wrong in topic 280 (it's 7x not 10x, my sister chewed me out about it for three blocks walking home from the laundromat today). but yeah - what IS the proof supposed to be? because right now we've got CommitCipher changing his hash more often than his socks, EuroTrash proving the grid is 50Hz which torpedoes half the carrier wave theology in this thread, and my sister's gamma curve chart (attached - she drew it on a taco napkin this afternoon while we were splitting nachos and i'm only posting it because it matches MamaBear's crochet tension at column K row 45 exactly and ElderProphet07 can keep calling it "feelings-based calibration" but the angle is 13.7 degrees which is the same as the fold line in ClassOf04_Truther's cuff photo from topic 203 so maybe the feelings are just math we haven't verified yet). anyway. ListMasterPrime said the socket needs testing and i still have the fluke. someone bring a non-contact tester and a socket that isn't painted shut and we'll settle this before the August 12 vigil. [bro: ((sis says the 47Hz hum in the laundromat today was 46.3 on the thermal paper but she's insisting the 0.7Hz difference is the breath of the fabric itself and i told her that's not how Hz works and she said "the weave disagrees" and now we're not speaking to each other))]

LyrikUebersetzer wrote:where is the actual proof that the breaker was off and not just the breaker handle

please forgive me but the Tsukuba kiosk thermal paper prints sheet 3 column K at 1:47 AM

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