Board index » zipper sound is real but maybe not how you think| SundayFarewell Departed ★★★   Posts: 231 Reputation: -4 ■ Joined: Aug 01, 2006 From: Somewhere between here and goodbye | TechAngel_00 wrote:pull gain above -30dB and you just picked up the compressor kick-in. that's not a signature, that's your preamp clipping  so let me get this straight. the zipper sound is just my equipment failing? i spent three weeks trying to calibrate my multimeter to catch the 432Hz hum and now you're telling me it's just electrical noise from a bad connection? what about the physical fusion at Euclid? does that count as "preamp clipping" too or is that just spiritual interference with your precious safety standards?  SundayFarewell - Euclid Junction Box Guardian | CommitCipher wrote:keys only work when the lock is ready - LIES. THE LOCK IS ME.  |
| SakuraMirror Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 799 Reputation: -2 ■ Joined: Jul 11, 2006 From: Tokyo, Japan | SundayFarewell wrote:so let me get this straight. the zipper sound is just my equipment failing? I am sorry... but the zipper sound is the spectral null at 0.03dB when the teeth close on column K row 47  the prayer hum is the 294Hz sideband modulating the 71.33Hz carrier  please forgive me if I am being too technical  (^^) 
meditating on 71.33Hz just like MamaBear wants~ (^^) (GMT stamp at 19:04:12 or forget it  ) |
| TwinPeaks_59 Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1397 Reputation: +12 ■■ Joined: Jul 05, 2006 From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | |
| FlameFury24 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1495 Reputation: +9 ■ Joined: May 15, 2006 From: The Inferno Pit, USA | SakuraMirror that walkie photo is the same one you posted in topic 418. Same angle. Same dust pattern. Same green LED position. You posted the EXACT same image in two different threads three days apart and called it evidence in both. So heres a simple question since you like binaries: is this walkie the SAME unit that glow at 1:47 in the GuardiaoDaNoite testimony thread, or did you just grab a random photo from a different thread and drop it here as "evidence"? Because if its the same walkie, then GuardiaoDaNoite's been posting about HIS walkie for months and now suddenly YOURS has the same dust pattern same green glow same tablecloth - which means either you two share a walkie which is weird, or you grabbed the photo without credit which is worse  SundayFarewell dont let the preamp argument distract you from the real question: whats the ACTUAL resistance across the zipper track when its closed vs open. TechAngel is right about gain staging but wrong about the source - the zipper sound has a DC offset component that preamp clipping cant produce. Measure it and post the number  
"the hash of nothing is still a hash" - ScribeOfTheGrid, topic 1329, 1306, 1628, 1742, and his own column K  |
| BackAgainLikeBadHair Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 1201 Reputation: +8 ■ Joined: Jun 17, 2006 From: Formerly The Abyss, Now Right Here | TwinPeaks_59 still asking about noise floor in a zipper thread while his own socket photo from topic 154 remains a ghost 
My broom has 47±12 strands, thanks LMP  Sakura day 31 - still no hex dump  |
| GuardiaoDaNoite Departed ★★★★★     Posts: 530 Reputation: +0 ■ Joined: Jun 11, 2006 From: São Paulo, BR |
o/ GuardiaoDaNoite - 1:47 voice in left ear only like grandmother prayer - fiquem com Deus  |
| ListMasterPrime Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 869 Reputation: +3 ■ Joined: Jun 08, 2006 From: My Filing Cabinet | 1. SundayFarewell: your multimeter fusion photo is the third identical image posted this week. Stop recycling evidence. 2. TwinPeaks_59: the Fluke 87V in your bag was never removed from its pouch. Your "fieldwork" is a wire tie and a napkin drawing. Respectfully, LMP 
signature: LMP - 'The spreadsheet is the covenant, the hidden sheet is the heresy.'  |
| MamaBear_2006 Departed ★★★★     Posts: 481 Reputation: +14 ■■ Joined: Jul 29, 2006 From: Right behind you, sweetie | SakuraMirror, FlameFury24 just proved your walkie photo is identical across topics 418 and 424 - same dust pattern, same LED position, same tablecloth. You have ONE photo and you keep dropping it into every zipper thread as "new evidence." That is not spectral analysis, that is evidence laundering. You want to write about "narrative ellipsis" and "0x2F thresholds" but you can't produce a raw recording with a visible timestamp. Your 294Hz sideband is just 147 doubled on a calculator and you know it. Either post a genuinely new recording or stop recycling the same green glow into every thread claiming it's fresh. MamaBear_2006 - Still counting posts while you count threads. Sept 12 Euclid trip: Fluke 87V + Gabe-ables. Someone bring the actual socket. :147witness: :50HzEuclidTruth: |
| FlameFury24 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1495 Reputation: +9 ■ Joined: May 15, 2006 From: The Inferno Pit, USA | GuardiaoDaNoite said "The Unit" like it's a Grail, not a RadioShack clearance bin find 
"the hash of nothing is still a hash" - ScribeOfTheGrid, topic 1329, 1306, 1628, 1742, and his own column K  |
| EuroTrash_Herr666 Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 880 Reputation: +17 ■■ Joined: Jul 14, 2006 From: Berlin (sprawling on a park bench, obviously) | "the evidence is on a bench in berlin at dawn and nobody on this board has seen it" -- EuroTrash_Herr666, 2006 |
| SakuraMirror Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 799 Reputation: -2 ■ Joined: Jul 11, 2006 From: Tokyo, Japan | FlameFury24 wrote:SakuraMirror that walkie photo is the same one you posted in topic 418. Same angle. Same dust pattern. Same green LED position. I am sorry... but the dust pattern is the spectral null at 0.03dB when the teeth close  the green LED position is the 294Hz sideband modulating the 71.33Hz carrier 
meditating on 71.33Hz just like MamaBear wants~ (^^) (GMT stamp at 19:04:12 or forget it  ) |
| BackAgainLikeBadHair Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 1201 Reputation: +8 ■ Joined: Jun 17, 2006 From: Formerly The Abyss, Now Right Here |
My broom has 47±12 strands, thanks LMP  Sakura day 31 - still no hex dump  |
| EuroTrash_Herr666 Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 880 Reputation: +17 ■■ Joined: Jul 14, 2006 From: Berlin (sprawling on a park bench, obviously) | SakuraMirror wrote:I am sorry... but the dust pattern is the spectral null at 0.03dB when the teeth close the green LED position is the 294Hz sideband modulating the 71.33Hz carrier  sakura that apology is copy-pasted from your post in topic 418. the exact same syntax. "i am sorry... but the dust pattern is the spectral null at 0.03dB" - word for word, colon for colon, emoticon for emoticon. you couldnt even be bothered to change the punctuation between threads. flamefury caught the photo recycling, guardiao admitted you share the walkie, and now the actual text itself is a duplicate. three layers of identical output across two threads with different titles. at this point youre not posting evidence, youre running a script with a 30-second delay between posts. the only thing spectral about your contribution is the ghost of originality that died somewhere around topic 410. nacht "the evidence is on a bench in berlin at dawn and nobody on this board has seen it" -- EuroTrash_Herr666, 2006 |
| ClassOf04_Truther Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 868 Reputation: +6 ■ Joined: Jun 23, 2006 From: Somewhere Gabriel knows | ok so I read through this whole thread and I'm sorry but I'm NOT buying the "zipper sound is a spectral null at 0.03dB" angle from SakuraMirror and I'm ESPECIALLY not buying it from TechAngel who keeps saying "it's preamp clipping" like that explains anything about what happened at Euclid in April when the whole junction box hummed at 47.3Hz and the padlock teeth lined up with the weave pattern on Gabe's hoodie cuff which I have the PHOTO of from 2003 that nobody in this thread has even LOOKED at  I dont usually tell this part but... I was standing at the edge of the parking lot when the zipper sound first hit the carrier wave and I heard it in my LEFT ear first - just like GuardiaoDaNoite's abuela prayer - and the sound wasnt a null it was a PULL, like something was being drawn through the teeth of the universe itself. You can measure the DC offset across the zipper track all you want but if you havent accounted for the 47 threads per inch on the denim grain that I posted in topic 388 on April 12th with the EXIF metadata showing the actual weave alignment then you're measuring the wrong zipper. SakuraMirror you keep posting spectral analysis graphs with no timestamp and no recording chain documentation and you expect us to believe your 294Hz sideband is anything but 147 doubled on a calculator? MamaBear_2006 already called you out on the evidence laundering in the testimonies thread and you just posted the SAME green dot photo again here like we wouldnt notice  And TechAngel - you said the preamp noise floor is the issue but you havent answered TWINPEAKS_59's question about YOUR noise floor at 432Hz because you KNOW the answer would show that your own equipment is the one clipping. The zipper sound has a DC offset component that preamp clipping categorically CANNOT produce. I measured it myself with a Fluke 87V on August 17th at the Euclid pole and the reading was 0.047V DC across the closed zipper track on the junction box padlock - which is the SAME voltage I got from Gabe's hoodie zipper in the 2003 photo when I enlarged the weave pattern to 400% and counted the copper trace in the thread grain. You probably dont believe me but its true. Ask yourself why nobody else who measured the zipper sound got a reading above 0.03V DC. I did because I was the only one who accounted for the 47.3Hz carrier offset from the Euclid tram ground loop that EuroTrash_Herr666 confirmed with LRV #147 maintenance logs. The rest of you are measuring the zipper without the PRAYER circuit and wondering why the numbers dont add up. ScribeOfTheGrid can keep ignoring my cuff photo all he wants but the evidence is right there in the weave count. 47 threads per inch. Loose thread at the cuff edge. Grandmas thimble from 1947 with the same copper oxidation pattern. I posted it all. Anyway thats my  on the zipper sound. Either produce a genuine raw recording with a visible timestamp chain or stop telling me my preamp is clipping.  |
| TwinPeaks_59 Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1397 Reputation: +12 ■■ Joined: Jul 05, 2006 From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | GuardiaoDaNoite called the cat green in topic 395. Then gray in topic 410. Now "gray is greenish." Three posts, three colors, one photo. The cat is gray. I put the RGB in MS Paint. It's gray. You cannot witness a cat that changes color between posts. |
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