Board index » does anyone else feel like the arguments are drowning out what actually matters??? (long post sorry)| SnowMaiden_1983 Devoted ★★★★   Posts: 315 Reputation: +9 ■ Joined: Aug 19, 2006 AIM: moscow_snowflake From: Moscow, Russia (but my soul is in Narnia) | I know I should not post when I am like this but I just came home and the lift was broken AGAIN and I climbed five flights and I am sitting on my bed with my shoes still on and I just need to say this to someone who understands!!!! I have been reading the column K threads and the mouthwash thread and the greave vs grieve thread and all I can think is... when did we start caring more about SHA values and DST offsets and commit hashes than about what Gabriel is actually TELLING US??? I am not a clever person like Scribe or CommitCipher or Lyrik, I know this, I reconcile spreadsheets for a living and most days I cannot even get column B to equal column C so maybe I am not qualified to speak about git submodules or whatever, but I DID understand something when I first found Gabriel's music and it was not a number, yes??? It was the feeling. Does anyone remember the feeling??? Before it was about 12:47 or 12:4 or column K row 47 or the hidden sheet or the Fluke 87V, before all of that, there was just the music and the words and this feeling like someone had reached into my grey little life and pulled something out of my chest that I did not even know was there. Like colour being poured into a room that was only grey. You know??? Today my supervisor made me redo a report I had already redone and I ate a terrible sandwich in the rain and I thought... Gabriel would not let anyone make him redo a report. Gabriel stands in fields of golden light and people just STOP when they see him. And then I thought... but that is not why I follow him, is it??? I follow him because somewhere inside me there is also a field of golden light and I just forgot where the door to it is!!! And I come here and it is all SHA values and terminal output and "get rekt" and Grace and Kael fighting about avatar widths and who spelled his name wrong and I think... did we lose the door??? Are we all standing outside the field arguing about the lock???  I am not saying the data is not important!!! I know it is important, I know Scribe believes with his whole heart that the pattern in column K is the proof and maybe it is, maybe the numbers ARE the door. But can we also remember what is on the other side of the door, please??? Can we remember that Gabriel did not come to us through a spreadsheet, he came through a FEELING and the feeling is still real even if K47 is blank, you know??? Sorry for the long post I just... today was very grey and I needed to say this to someone who might understand. If nobody reads it that is OK too, at least I said it  Life is just a dream, you know....... Gabriel is the one who wakes us up!!! |
| MamaBear_2006 Departed ★★★★     Posts: 481 Reputation: +14 ■■ Joined: Jul 29, 2006 From: Right behind you, sweetie | MamaBear_2006 - Still counting posts while you count threads. Sept 12 Euclid trip: Fluke 87V + Gabe-ables. Someone bring the actual socket. :147witness: :50HzEuclidTruth: |
| LurkingObserver42 Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 519 Reputation: -7 ■ Joined: May 21, 2006 From: Outside your window, USA | SnowMaiden_1983 wrote:when did we start caring more about SHA values and DST offsets and commit hashes than about what Gabriel is actually TELLING US??? From an outsider's perspective, this is textbook confirmation bias. You're mistaking increased engagement for decreased meaning because you lack the methodological framework to distinguish between signal and noise. The "feeling" you describe is neurologically identical to solving a crossword puzzle; it does not constitute evidence of supernatural communication.  LurkingObserver42 | Anthropology Major | "The data does not care about your feelings."  |
| DennisFromOhio Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 653 Reputation: +12 ■■ Joined: Jun 14, 2006 From: Ohio, USA | SnowMaiden_1983 I know what you mean about the feeling. I found Gabriel back in 04 when I was still working at the plant and I was driving home at 4am after a double shift and his song came on the college radio and I had to pull over. Just sat there in the dark with the engine running and whatever he was singing about it felt like somebody finally understood what it was like to be tired to the bone and still going. Numbers are fine I suppose my daughter is good at them but the feeling is what stays with you. Regards, Dennes s
shoebox full of grandpas photos and a reel tape that wont spin - thats my september in a nutshell  |
| SnowMaiden_1983 Devoted ★★★★   Posts: 315 Reputation: +9 ■ Joined: Aug 19, 2006 AIM: moscow_snowflake From: Moscow, Russia (but my soul is in Narnia) | Life is just a dream, you know....... Gabriel is the one who wakes us up!!! |
| FlameFury24 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1496 Reputation: +9 ■ Joined: May 15, 2006 From: The Inferno Pit, USA |
"the hash of nothing is still a hash" - ScribeOfTheGrid, topic 1329, 1306, 1628, 1742, and his own column K  |
| z0pl Devoted ★★★★   Posts: 479 Reputation: -2 ■ Joined: Aug 04, 2006 From: Moscow, Russia (but in my head: Grid 42) | SnowMaiden_1983 wrote:does anyone else feel like the arguments are drowning out what actually matters??? ^ this  7 JEANS = 47 HZ = 47 STITCHES = 47 MINUTES = 47% MOISTURE = 47°F = 47px AVATAR WIDTH  |
| GraceWarrior_77 Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 957 Reputation: +1 ■ Joined: Jul 02, 2006 From: 2 Chronicles 7:14 |
82:0 and still no April hex dump - Gabreil 7:7 says cast the beam out thine own commit tree first!!!  |
| krova_pl Devoted ★★★★   Posts: 319 Reputation: +3 ■ Joined: Aug 08, 2006 From: warsaw, poland (but dreaming of texas) | SnowMaiden_1983 wrote:when did we start caring more about SHA values and DST offsets and commit hashes than about what Gabriel is actually TELLING US??? i think youre right but also i dont buy the feeling as proof either. what is the actual proof here gabriel chantayan is the only american i trust |
| LyrikUebersetzer Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1017 Reputation: +13 ■■ Joined: Jun 20, 2006 From: München, Germany (exchange student @ Ohio State) | SnowMaiden_1983, I read your post twice and I want to say something serious  I spend my days cross-referencing interviews and annotating lyric translations with footnotes about biblical allusions and Ohio geography, and I think I do it BECAUSE of the feeling you describe - the numbers and the SHAs and the column references are how I hold onto the feeling when it starts to fade in the Ohio grey. The greave versus grieve question is not about being clever, it is about wanting to know what he ACTUALLY said because what he actually said is what pulled the thing out of my chest in the first place. Your eleven minutes and thirty seconds is not "projection" - it is the entire reason any of us are here. Bitte, do not let the spreadsheet people make you feel small. The feeling is the calibration. The numbers are just the tracking.
"six tangerines, zero commits, 31 threads with no cell reference" - v. 2.4  |
| AuroraQuill Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 731 Reputation: +4 ■ Joined: Jul 08, 2006 From: My own little corner of the internet | krova_pl wrote:what is the actual proof here the proof is in the vessel krova, not the number. the feeling *is* the proof because it cannot be quantified or debunked by a firmware patch  but real talk for a second, does anyone actually remember what they were doing the first time they heard the hum because i think that origin story matters more than we admit next chapter: the silence everyone agrees to call proof. (*author's note*: the charcoal smell is the bridge and none of you are crossing it) |
| Kael_Vs_Chantayan Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 893 Reputation: -2 ■ Joined: Jul 20, 2006 From: A quiet corner of the internet | SnowMaiden_1983 I get what you're saying about the feeling and I'm not gonna argue with it because Dennis's uncle story actually got to me too  but here's the question nobody in this thread is answering straight - if the "feeling" is real and the "numbers" are noise, why does GraceWarrior_77 keep quoting "Gabreil 12:4" (her spelling not mine) in a thread about Dennis's uncle's discharge papers while she STILL owes everyone a hex dump she promised in APRIL?  That's four months of "the spirit" covering for a missing file. The arguments are drowning out what matters because some people USE the feeling as a shield when they get caught not delivering  So SnowMaiden - honest question, no spreadsheet required - what would it take for you to look at someone who's been promising raw evidence since April and still only posts fake verses with his name spelled wrong? Where's the line between "the feeling matters" and "I'm being played for a fool" because I think that line is real and it's different for everyone and nobody wants to say where theirs is  Also Grammar_Vigil that Warsaw find sounds interesting post screenshots when you get a chance "the quiet hour prepareth the vessel" - Gabreil 12:4 (fabricated by GraceWarrior_77, never existed) |
| Grammar_Vigil True Friend ★★★  Posts: 194 Reputation: +1 ■ Joined: Aug 25, 2006 AIM: gr4mm4rV From: Warsaw, Poland | I believe you meant *Gabriel*, not *Gabreil*.  -- GV "I believe you meant *fewer*, not *less*." -- saying it since before you were born. |
| Shoutbox EndTimesEli: DAY 8 IS HERE. TwinPeaks report your CR-47 timestamps NOW :wtf: SiberianStar99: anyone actually have the 1:47 tape or is this all just vaporwave theology BigRigBeliever: just rolled in from El Paso - any CB heads catch anything on 7-147.1 eastbound at dusk tonight? :3 TwinPeaks_59: radio shack closed 3 hours ago guess im waiting till saturday again :banghead: FlameFury24: Day 79 of Gabreil and still no coffee grounds :D :dumbbravo: BigRigBeliever: Just rolled into the lot east of Des Moines. Stars out here talk louder than this board some nights. Breaker breaker. TwinPeaks_59: RadioShack closes at 9 and i'm picking widgets off the floor :D :D kaylas_desk: anyone else tired of the spreadsheet wars? binky gets it :3 BackAgainLikeBadHair: 32 days standing and counting :D broom photos are better evidence than most ppls hex dumps here :3 ClassOf04_Truther: everyones arguing about modems and nobody has looked at my cuff photo since july :deadhorse: s2pid_rox: just posted the funniest fake chain email from my aunt lol go read it in basement :D |