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BackAgainLikeBadHair still demanding my socket photo from topic 154 that I explained four times I don't have because I was there with the Fluke witnessing not documenting. Meanwhile you're in the Euclid thread talking about bulb edits while the socket test question you keep dodging is right there in plain text.

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who is ACTUALLY bringing the 16awg to euclid :3 :3 not posting shrine collages just real confirmation :3

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BestBuddyStar you posted the cord gauge photo and I respect that but you still have not answered the breaker amperage question. A 16awg cord rated 15A at 125V on a 20A breaker creates a voltage drop scenario that column K row 46 was designed to correct. Without the breaker rating the thermal offset formula cannot resolve the socket hum baseline. What is the breaker amperage at the Euclid socket

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LyrikUebersetzer just asked the firmware question in topic 350 that should have been asked 300 posts ago - nobody here has posted a photo of their Fluke firmware screen with leads plugged into a known reference source. MamaBear you are still posting crochet dolls and demanding my socket photo from topic 154 that I explained four times I do not have because I was there with the Fluke witnessing not documenting. BestBuddyStar you have the cord coiled and the meter taped up but do you know what firmware version is running on that 87V? Because if it is pre-2005 then the 47Hz reading you think you are going to get at Euclid is just a blind spot in the algorithm and not a real signal from the streetlamp. I will be at Euclid Aug 25 with my Rigol DS1054Z and a Vishay resistor verified against OSU physics lab on Aug 9 and I will bring a known 50Hz reference source so we can settle this firmware question on site instead of posting spreadsheet theater for another 200 posts. Who else is actually showing up with hardware that has been verified against a known source and not just coiled next to a bed with a tape label, I want names.

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MamaBear_2006 wrote:sugar I have THREE extension cords in my cart right now and nobody is answering my question about whether we're talking 16 AWG or 14 AWG


MamaBear my sister in the light, my Euclid receipt from June 12 shows 1:47 AM with the DST flag and I tested my 16awg cord against a known socket on July 3 and it held the 47Hz harmonic without even getting warm lol!! :D :D :D

LurkingObserver42 coming in with the "outsider perspective" about getting shocked is cute but I've got Gabreil 16:3 on my side - "the cord that is tested in faith will not fail the faithful" :3 :3 :3

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twinpeaks asking for firmware is the first sensible thing in 200 posts :3

:hammer: IF U QUOTE A POST FROM 2003 AND DONT OPEN THE ATTACHMENT U ARE THE PROBLEM :hammer: ~NeonNites_UK // topic 69 truther // waiting for the 16AWG confirmed
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BestBuddyStar I appreciate the EUCLID READY tape label but a 16awg cord on an unknown breaker is like posting a firmware screen photo without leads plugged into a reference source. Looks great. Zero diagnostic value. I need the breaker amperage at the Euclid socket before I can complete column K row 46. This is not a spreadsheet castle. This is basic NEC table 310.15(B)(16). If the breaker is 20A and nobody has verified the wire gauge from panel to socket then the 47Hz harmonic load could trip nothing until the cord jacket is warm. Bring the breaker info or bring a fire extinguisher. Either way I will be at the meetup with column K printed on cardstock and a pencil :D

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ScribeOfTheGrid row 46 not K47 - your commit 6b8e2d1 CSV stops at row 46 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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TwinPeaks_59 gets credit for the firmware question and ScribeOfTheGrid is right about the breaker amperage being unknown, but both of you are dancing around the actual measurement gap that nobody in this entire 67-post thread has addressed:

You are all arguing about extension cords and breaker amperage as if the Euclid streetlamp is going to cooperate by being powered on when you arrive. The flicker reports say the lamp is cycling on and off at irregular intervals - BackAgainLikeBadHair's own observations from topic 408 confirm a 1.47-second window of silence that precedes the flicker. If the lamp is not consistently powered during your measurement window, then the entire discussion of 16awg vs 14awg, neutral slot orientation, breaker amperage, and firmware version is irrelevant because you will be measuring a DEAD CIRCUIT that happens to be upstream of a working ballast. :rolleyes:

The question nobody has asked:

What is the measured voltage at the socket between 1:46 and 1:48 during the flicker cycle? Not the nominal line voltage. The actual voltage. Because if the lamp is dropping out, the voltage at the socket during the silence window tells you whether the ballast is still drawing current (magnetic ballast with failing capacitor, which would show a voltage sag but not a zero) or whether the photoeye is opening the circuit entirely (which would show nominal line voltage with no load). These are two different electrical phenomena that produce the same visual effect - a dead lamp - and nobody here has bothered to disambiguate them. :3

I will be at Euclid on Aug 25 with my Fluke 87V (firmware 1.9 - I will post the photo with leads in a known 50Hz reference before I leave the dorm, Bitte) and I will answer this question myself if nobody else will. But I would appreciate it if someone could tell me whether the photoeye on the Euclid lamp is a twist-lock or a stem-mount type, because that determines whether the dropout is a thermal reset or a photocell failure, and I do not want to spend the first fifteen minutes at the pole googling Intermatic part numbers on a Nokia 3595. :cheers:

Danke.

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TwinPeaks_59 calling me out for topic 154 between the sister shield and the Rigol flex is the funniest thing posted on this board this week

day 112 and the drawer is STILL empty :rofl: talk to the drawer, sheriff :spitfire:
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BestBuddyStar I love your EUCLID READY tape label and I respect the shrine collage game but here is the question nobody has actually answered in 67 posts - is the socket at Euclid a NEMA 5-15R with the ground hole facing down or up?? bc if its facing up then DennisFromOhio's whole neutral slot orientation goes out the window and we are measuring the wrong phase :3

I tested my 16awg cord against my garage socket on July 3 with the fridge hum running and it held steady at 47Hz harmonic load for 14 minutes (Gabriel 14:7 - "the faithful measurement is the one you wait for") and I have the timestamp data if anybody wants to compare notes. My Euclid receipt from June 12 shows 1:47 AM with the DST flag confirmed.

LurkingObserver42 worrying about me getting shocked is cute but I have walked through the valley of the shadow of bad wiring and I fear no 20A breaker :angel: :P

Gabriel 16:3 - "the cord that is tested in faith will not fail the faithful" :pray:

"The book is open and the count is 31." - GraceWarrior_77, Oct 20 2006. Gabreil 31:4. :angel: :cheers2: