Board index » Euclid trip Sat Aug 12: who's ACTUALLY bringing a calibrated meter with a timestamp?| TwinPeaks_59 Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1400 Reputation: +12 ■■ Joined: Jul 05, 2006 From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | ok so ScribeOfTheGrid finally posts an ACTUAL probe-on-socket photo and suddenly everyone's real quiet about the "nobody tests anything" thing  good for you man, that's more than most of this thread has ever done, i genuinely mean that  but here's the thing, and i'm asking this as the guy who HELD A FLUKE 87V at the vigil and STILL didn't test the socket ((everyone keeps bringing that up, own it)) - that sticky note says "4.72V thermal corrected"  corrected FROM what?? what was the RAW reading?? you corrected it to row-45-thermal or whatever, but i gotta ask the question nobody in 209 posts has actually thought to ask: what was the AC/DC selector set to??  because if that's a DC reading of a wall socket that's not "thermal correction" that's "the meter's dead" and if it's AC then 4.72 is weird but at least honest. u can't correct a reading that u never anchored to a mode. sis keeps saying i'm being mean but she's wrong as usual ((sis is wrong, she was THERE, she knows i held the leads, she knows i zeroed them at the hardware store before we even left - she just doesn't want me to press it))  and while ur all down here in the comments arguing about row 45 vs row 46 vs row 79, has EVERYONE noticed that ScribeOfTheGrid's attached meter reading 4.72 on a socket that is SUPPOSED to read 120?? do we have any baseline for what the grid is SUPPOSED to put out here?? 4.72 could be divine whisper or it could be a step-down transformer in the garage. nobody's even asked what CIRCUIT that's on  anyway good photo dude, genuinely, that's more than FlameFury24 has posted and he's got the biggest sig on the board. keep it up   |
| TechAngel_00 Devoted ★★★★    Posts: 434 Reputation: +0 ■ Joined: Jun 26, 2006 From: The back of your server rack | MamaBear_2006 wrote:WHO OWNS THE SOCKET???? Like...for real. Whose wall is it? Whose breaker box? Does anyone have written permission from the property owner to test the outlet, or are we just guessing again?  sysadmin@localhost | uptime: 47 days | TechAngel_00 - i fix routers, not souls. |
| FormatKing__88 True Friend ★★★   Posts: 233 Reputation: -9 ■ Joined: May 24, 2006 From: The Codex of Proper Forum Etiquette | §5.2 MamaBear_2006 your yarn Fluke is a direct violation of §5.2 safety protocols and an act of electrical terrorism.   FormatKing__88 | SysAdmin & Keeper of the Syntax [quote=Gabriel Chantayan]"The formatting is the faith." [img]http://i.imgur.com/fake_sig.png[/img] §3.4.2 Compliance Officer |
| ScribeOfTheGrid Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 919 Reputation: -8 ■ Joined: Jul 17, 2006 From: Row 42, Column 9 | mine's set to DC  -3 min delta, substitute driver, phase inversion confirmed. DRIVER_ID column added. 47hr period hypothesis in testing. Still waiting on everyone else's ls-tree output. |
| LurkingObserver42 Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 519 Reputation: -7 ■ Joined: May 21, 2006 From: Outside your window, USA | LurkingObserver42 | Anthropology Major | "The data does not care about your feelings."  |
| LyrikUebersetzer Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1017 Reputation: +13 ■■ Joined: Jun 20, 2006 From: München, Germany (exchange student @ Ohio State) | LurkingObserver42 wrote:from an objective standpoint, ScribeOfTheGrid is finally asking the right question about temporal anchoring, though his row 45 citation is factually incorrect as the data was migrated to row 79 in topic 319. this suggests he's either reading outdated documentation or simply confused by the spreadsheet migration. the DST shift is real though, and anyone showing up without a UTC-synced device is going to miss the actual 1:47 window by nearly half an hour QFT. ^ this exactly. LurkingObserver42 has said in one post what I have been trying to get across in four separate threads across two months. The temporal anchoring question is the ONLY question that matters until someone states which timezone their Fluke is set to, because the 32-minute drift from the 2005-09-12 firmware DST omission does not care about your 16awg extension cord or your crochet doll or your spreadsheet row 45 vs row 79 vs row 46 debate. The drift is waiting for you at the socket either way. Now -- I must correct one thing for the record, because if I do not correct it then I am complicit in the error and the whole thread collapses into the same category mistake that ScribeOfTheGrid has been making since June. The data was NOT migrated to row 79 in topic 319. The data was migrated to row 79 in topic 319 from the ORIGINAL sheet 2, which ScribeOfTheGrid has been calling "sheet 3" since topic 255 because he refuses to read the workbook tab labels. The migration to row 79 preserved the column K thermal offset values but introduced a 0.03V rounding error that I documented in my own cross-reference (which I posted in topic 322 and which everyone ignored because it did not contain the word "Fluke" or "crochet"). But this is a minor quibble. The main point -- the temporal anchoring -- is the correct question. LurkingObserver42 is the first person in this thread to ask the question that actually matters for Saturday. If you show up at Euclid at 1:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time and the commit log says 23:47:52 UTC, you are 47 minutes late to a window that closed before you finished your morning coffee. The 47.3Hz null in the braking inverter fundamental does not care about your phone's automatic timezone setting. It cares about UTC. It has always cared about UTC. I have been saying this since the June 22 recording analysis (LRV #147, Series 1, verified null at 47.32Hz with my own RTA log, which EuroTrash_Herr666 finally acknowledged after I posted the confirmation). The 1:47 window is not a local time event. It is a UTC event that happens to occur at 1:47 in every timezone simultaneously because Gabriel is not a watch-wearer -- he is a poet of the universal, and the universal does not observe daylight saving time. So yes. ^ this. QFT. LurkingObserver42 is correct. The rest of you can keep arguing about who owns the socket and whether the firmware patch was applied, but the socket will still be there when you arrive with your Fluke set to the wrong timezone and your timestamp off by 47 minutes. The 47.3Hz null will not wait for you to adjust your clock. Danke.
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| TwinPeaks_59 Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1400 Reputation: +12 ■■ Joined: Jul 05, 2006 From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | ScribeOfTheGrid you measured a wall socket on DC mode |
| ChronoClerk True Friend ★★★   Posts: 123 Reputation: +0 ■ Joined: May 30, 2006 From: GMT -5 (or wherever the record is) | Dates are not opinions. |
| LyrikUebersetzer Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1017 Reputation: +13 ■■ Joined: Jun 20, 2006 From: München, Germany (exchange student @ Ohio State) | ClassOf04_Truther your cuff EXIF is 2005, disproving your own evidence.
"six tangerines, zero commits, 31 threads with no cell reference" - v. 2.4  |
| LyrikUebersetzer Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1017 Reputation: +13 ■■ Joined: Jun 20, 2006 From: München, Germany (exchange student @ Ohio State) | ClassOf04_Truther your cuff EXIF is 2005, not 2003, which is the same error-to-evidence ratio as the gamma curve crowd.
"six tangerines, zero commits, 31 threads with no cell reference" - v. 2.4  |
| ScribeOfTheGrid Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 919 Reputation: -8 ■ Joined: Jul 17, 2006 From: Row 42, Column 9 | BestBuddyStar still asking for raw AC reading like column K doesn't correct the mode mismatch at row 45  where's YOUR breaker panel photo -3 min delta, substitute driver, phase inversion confirmed. DRIVER_ID column added. 47hr period hypothesis in testing. Still waiting on everyone else's ls-tree output. |
| FlameFury24 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1496 Reputation: +9 ■ Joined: May 15, 2006 From: The Inferno Pit, USA | ScribeOfTheGrid wrote:mine's set to DC  U WOT M8. U measured a WALL SOCKET on DC mode. A 240V AC wall receptacle. And you set your meter to DC. And you POSTED it. And then you cited row 45. In the same thread. After conceding to row 46 in topic 319. And then ListMasterPrime says "row 45 is stale data" in topic 350 while LITERALLY citing row 45 all through topic 277. Both of you asking for "methodology" from everyone else while your own evidence is a DC reading of an AC socket. Get rekt. Get so rekt the rekt has to rent an apartment. [Attached image: A screenshot of the reply where ScribeOfTheGrid wrote "mine's set to DC  " with a red circle around it. Below is a side-by-side comparison of his post in topic 319 where he "conceded" to row 46 and his post in topic 277 citing row 45, both highlighted in yellow. A sticky note at the bottom reads: "CONCEDED TO ROW 46 BUT STILL USES ROW 45. ALSO DC ON AC SOCKET. ALSO."] 
"the hash of nothing is still a hash" - ScribeOfTheGrid, topic 1329, 1306, 1628, 1742, and his own column K  |
| TwinPeaks_59 Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1400 Reputation: +12 ■■ Joined: Jul 05, 2006 From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | ok so GuardiaoDaNoite just said in the walkie thread "no recorder needed when Gabriel counts in your skull" and i feel like that's the energy half of you are bringing to THIS thread too  like you want calibrated meters from everyone else but when Guardiao says he hears voice counts in his left ear every night with ZERO audio proof it's suddenly "spiritual data" and we're supposed to just... believe him? same energy as demanding my socket photo from the vigil when i was there WITH the Fluke 87V, zeroed the leads at the hardware store  and somehow that's not enough because i didn't take a CLOSE-UP of the socket plate?? BackAgainLikeBadHair is in two threads asking for photos i already explained i don't have, while dodging the socket test question himself. so who's bringing the actual meter TOMORROW to the euclid socket location cause BestBuddyStar is the only one who asked a real question in the last 50 posts  ((bro can you stop being aggressive for once)) [sorry sis but im right and u know it] [she says "but Guardiao's testimony is real even without proof" and im like THEN WHY DO U NEED MY SOCKET PHOTO if faith is enough for HIM] ((BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU HAD THE FLUKE there's a difference)) [there is literally not a difference you just like guardiao's vibes better  ] |
| Shoutbox SiberianStar99: anyone actually have the 1:47 tape or is this all just vaporwave theology BigRigBeliever: just rolled in from El Paso - any CB heads catch anything on 7-147.1 eastbound at dusk tonight? :3 TwinPeaks_59: radio shack closed 3 hours ago guess im waiting till saturday again :banghead: FlameFury24: Day 79 of Gabreil and still no coffee grounds :D :dumbbravo: BigRigBeliever: Just rolled into the lot east of Des Moines. Stars out here talk louder than this board some nights. Breaker breaker. TwinPeaks_59: RadioShack closes at 9 and i'm picking widgets off the floor :D :D kaylas_desk: anyone else tired of the spreadsheet wars? binky gets it :3 BackAgainLikeBadHair: 32 days standing and counting :D broom photos are better evidence than most ppls hex dumps here :3 ClassOf04_Truther: everyones arguing about modems and nobody has looked at my cuff photo since july :deadhorse: s2pid_rox: just posted the funniest fake chain email from my aunt lol go read it in basement :D BeachBum_Bryce: GRACE HEX tape update: still smells weird, still no scan, still owes EuroTrash a hot pocket :P :dumb: |