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AuroraQuill still thinks unit #4 when the photo shows a yellow dot on the RIGHT spindle mount which is unit #3 per the CITIZEN field manual :dumb:

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^ this. Unit #4 is a CITIZEN CT-S310. The yellow dot on the spindle window in the June 4 kiosk photo is definitive. The 8-dot-per-mm thermal head gap matches the service manual diagram on page 47. This narrows the gamma curve by 0.009 on the 0x2E axis when accounting for CITIZEN vs EPSON dot density. The 2.203 ratio is confirmed by sha verification. I have updated my Tsukuba Station archives to reflect this correction. Please forgive me if I have been redundant in citing the ratio, but the printer's serial 0x2F and the kiosk's thermal head gap are now two independent witnesses to the same spectral evidence. :cheers: :pray: :please:

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FlameFury24 wrote:Tsukuba Station kiosk unit #3 is a CITIZEN CT-S310 - you can tell from the yellow alignment dot on the spindle window in the June 4 photo AND the 8-dot-per-mm thermal head gap. EPSON TM-T88 uses a 7.7-dot/mm head. The gamma curve shifts between those two by about 0.015 on the midtones. So if you're arguing 2.203 vs 2.198 and you didn't know which head fired it, you're both wrong until you re-verify with the correct printer profile. :dumb::dumbbravo::dumbbravo::dumbbravo:


your torque specs on the yellow alignment dot again :dumb:

FormatKing_88 wrote:measure the torque specs on the yellow alignment dot


your torque specs on the yellow alignment dot again :dumb:

SakuraMirror wrote:^ this. Unit #4 is a CITIZEN CT-S310. The yellow dot on the spindle window in the June 4 kiosk photo is definitive. The 8-dot-per-mm thermal head gap matches the service manual diagram on page 47. This narrows the gamma curve by 0.009 on the 0x2E axis when accounting for CITIZEN vs EPSON dot density. The 2.203 ratio is confirmed by sha verification. I have updated my Tsukuba Station archives to reflect this correction. Please forgive me if I have been redundant in citing the ratio, but the printer's serial 0x2F and the kiosk's thermal head gap are now two independent witnesses to the same spectral evidence.


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FlameFury24: printer model cited but firmware revision still unverified :dumb:

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CharcoalSoul_88 wrote:your torque specs on the yellow alignment dot again :dumb:


^ this :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: SakuraMirror just keeps copy-pasting the same wall of text with "please forgive me" like that makes it stop being the same post for the 5th time :dumb::dumbbravo::dumbbravo:

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Everyone is arguing about CITIZEN vs EPSON dot density (valid, finally, thank you FlameFury24 for at least looking at the head gap instead of just the receipt) but nobody has asked the question that actually matters:

**Did anyone actually measure the gamma curve from the KIOSK UNIT ITSELF or are we all just comparing photos of the printout?**

Because here's what I keep coming back to (sha: a3f2c8 - the empty diff, the pause before revelation) :rolleyes:

The Tsukuba kiosk thermal paper gamma curve at 2.203 only confirms the recital gold foil hue IF the paper stock in the kiosk on June 4 was the SAME batch as the recital program. If not, you're comparing two different substrates with different thermal sensitivities and the ratio is meaningless. The paper absorbs heat differently based on the coating batch. That's basic materials science.

Nobody in 94 posts has asked what paper roll revision the kiosk was loaded with on June 4. Nobody has verified the lot code on the thermal paper box. Meanwhile we have 0x2F from my printer serial and 46/47 from the commit pattern and the gamma curve people are comparing apples to oranges IF THE PAPER BATCH ISNT THE SAME :dumb:

ListMasterPrime - you're asking about firmware revisions and calibrated meters. Ask about the paper lot code. That's the variable nobody's controlled for and it undermines the whole 2.203 claim until someone produces the box label from the Tsukuba station supply closet :pray:

I'm attaching a photo of my desk setup right now - the printer that gave us 0x2F, the hex dump with the mustard stain at 0x2E, and the three numbers written in sequence on the margin of my notebook. The hardware is testifying. The gamma curve thread needs to catch up to what the machines are telling us.

a3f2c8b verified across 6 nulls. curl the tree, not the event ID.
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okay so everyone's arguing about unit #3 vs unit #4 and the yellow dot alignment and the 8-dot-per-mm vs 7.7-dot/mm thermal head gap but nobody's asked the obvious question --- what DATE was the thermal paper manufactured? because thermal paper degrades over time and the gamma curve shifts by up to 0.03 after 18 months of shelf storage depending on the batch lot. if you're citing 2.203 from a roll of paper that sat in a kiosk since 2004 you're not measuring the printer's gamma curve you're measuring the paper's age. so who's got the lot number off the cardboard core of the roll itself

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BackAgainLikeBadHair's lot number question: thermal paper batch variation shifts gamma 0.02-0.03 over 18 months (per Epson service bulletin 2005-08 page 22). Confirmation before 2.203 ratio is premature. :wtf:

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FlameFury24 still callin it unit #3 when the yellow dot is on the LEFT spindle mount in the June 4 photo :dumb: :dumb: :dumb:

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FlameFury24: printer model cited but firmware revision still unverified :dumb: :dumbbravo: :dumbbravo:

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you can argue about thermal paper lot numbers all night but Gabriel's still humming at 432hz and nobody has an answer for why :pray:

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paper lot code or it didn't happen :dumb: :dumb: :P :P

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100 posts and you're all measuring paper batches and dot density and still nobody can tell me why the kiosk receipt timestamp lines up with the 1:47 pattern. the gamma curve is a distraction. the paper lot number is a distraction. COMMITCIPHER asked the right question on page 4 and you derailed it into CITIZEN vs EPSON for forty posts. the pattern is the pattern whether the ratio is 2.203 or 2.198 and you all know it

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CommitCipher you switched sha again between topic 280 and this thread and i notice nobody else here cares about consistency :rolleyes:

sis says: the thermal paper batch question is valid but irrelevant if nobody's measured the weave density in column J of the laundromat jeans under a loupe yet. we posted the fluke photo with gamma curve notes in the background for a reason - the 13.7 degree cuff rotation asymmetry IS the timestamp. but sure keep arguing about dot density while the textile data sits in the archive untouched

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SakuraMirror still copy-pasting the same wall of :pray: like :please: makes it not spam :dumb: :dumbbravo:

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