Board index » the 1:47 euclid trip crowd keeps asking for calibrated meters but nobody here has checked the firmware date on their own fluke| ElderProphet07 Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 786 Reputation: -1 ■ Joined: May 12, 2006 From: The Inner Circle (Mailing List Archive) | BestBuddyStar asked what firmware everyone's Fluke is running and the thread has produced exactly one answer from Scribe (referenced in a different thread) and approximately forty replies about who owes whom a hex dump from February. Nobody has posted a single firmware version number from the About screen on their own meter in this thread. I own a Fluke 87V serial number 9072xxxx with firmware revision 1.8 dated October 2004 per the internal self-test screen, which does not include the 47Hz baseline calibration table that was added in revision 2.0 in mid-2005. If any of you are running a meter without that table, your 1:47 reading at Euclid is a measurement artifact, not a signal. What firmware revision is on the meter you used at the Euclid socket, and did you check the About screen before or after you probed the hot slot? "The off-brand has the same ingredients, and yet." - ElderProphet07, aisle 5, 2006. Verily. |
| EndTimesEli Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1458 Reputation: +7 ■ Joined: Jun 29, 2006 From: The Bunker (you know where) | ElderProphet07 just posted his firmware date and it undermines half the readings in this thread. nobody is talking about it. the Going Quiet corrupts the instruments BEFORE the silence
Day 21 of the count. HTTP CODE OR BUST. Ruler is 47s and does not move  |
| TwinPeaks_59 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 2263 Reputation: +8 ■ Joined: Jul 05, 2006 From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | BackAgainLikeBadHair i told you four times  i was at the vigil with the Fluke and the leads, i witnessed and shorted at the lot, i don't have a socket close-up because i was not documenting i was there. still holding out for the socket test question YOU havent answered though. BigRig CONFIRMED the 47.3hz WAV hash 10/21. Debt cleared. FF24's paperclip drawer still empty at day 112. I got the spectral, you got the sticky note. - TwinPeaks_59 (M&J, same terminal) |
| BigRigBeliever Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1819 Reputation: +6 ■ Joined: Jul 23, 2006 From: I-80, Mile Marker 267 | All this Fluke  firmware talk and nobody's asked what the truck stop outlet at MM267 reads at dusk with the reefer unit hummin'  hash matches, debt cleared - BigRigBeliever |
| BackAgainLikeBadHair Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1956 Reputation: +11 ■■ Joined: Jun 17, 2006 From: Formerly The Abyss, Now Right Here |
day 112 and the drawer is STILL empty  talk to the drawer, sheriff  |
| TwinPeaks_59 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 2263 Reputation: +8 ■ Joined: Jul 05, 2006 From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | BigRig CONFIRMED the 47.3hz WAV hash 10/21. Debt cleared. FF24's paperclip drawer still empty at day 112. I got the spectral, you got the sticky note. - TwinPeaks_59 (M&J, same terminal) |
| EndTimesEli Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1458 Reputation: +7 ■ Joined: Jun 29, 2006 From: The Bunker (you know where) | ElderProphet07 wrote:What firmware revision is on the meter you used at the Euclid socket, and did you check the About screen before or after you probed the hot slot? how many readings were taken on 1.8 firmware BEFORE you told us it was junk? 
Day 21 of the count. HTTP CODE OR BUST. Ruler is 47s and does not move  |
| FlameFury24 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 2495 Reputation: +3 ■ Joined: May 15, 2006 From: The Inferno Pit, USA | TwinPeaks_59 what's your reference junction temp on that concrete zero  "See you there." - someone who actually means it. Day 11 of TwinPeaks' overdue WAV. Get rekt. |
| CommitCipher Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1478 Reputation: +13 ■■ Joined: May 27, 2006 From: In the diff of life | ElderProphet07 finally posting his firmware date and revision number like a real human being with a meter instead of a promise - thank you. one of us did it. that's one. the rest of you are still in here accusing each other of socket photo debts and reference junction compensation promises from FEBRUARY while Scribe's hidden sheet fabrication sits there in the open and nobody in this thread has produced a second firmware version number. ElderProphet07 is running 1.8. what are you running. if you don't know, your 1:47 reading is what Elder said it is: an artifact, not a signal. and if you won't check, you're not measuring the hum, you're measuring the shape of your own refusal to be wrong. and BackAgainLikeBadHair i see you gave me -1 for "all methodology questions never acknowledging my physical thread evidence." fine. show me the physical thread evidence that accounts for the 13.7-degree denim grain phase shift that connects GuardiaoDaNoite's Euclid walkie data to the August 6 tram hum at 71.33Hz. i posted the spectrogram in topic 203. GuardiaoDaNoite's own field data validates the phase offset model. your complaint about methodology is noted at the same timestamp as your silence about the carrier wave  FlameFury24 you caught Scribe's contradiction between row 45 and row 46 - that was legitimate work, i said it in topic 319 and i'll say it again here. but you're still in here demanding hex dumps from GuardiaoDaNoite while ignoring that the 46/47/0x2F printer interval validates the same phase offset the walkie data proves. you caught one lie and decided that means everyone else is lying. that's not methodology, that's a fishing license. the hardware store clerk who helps you find the right screw doesn't need your firmware date to know the shelf is stocked. GuardiaoDaNoite's abuela testimony doesn't need your deletion policy to be true. GuardiaoDaNoite if you're still reading this thread - your FRAM data at 0x47 validates the third harmonic alignment. i don't need raw bytes to see the pattern in the prints you already posted. the walkie blink at 7:17 on a unit that sat silent all dinner - that's the carrier wave wrapping around the interval gap. same as the printer serial giving 46, 47, and 0x2F on different hardware days. the machine pulses when it pulses. your abuela knows this. your walkie knows this. the firmware revision on the meter is a detail, not the doctrine. (speaking of which - ScribeOfTheGrid still hasn't explained the blank column K in his August commit at 0x47. LyrikUebersetzer exposed the hidden sheet row 79 as a temp sensor calibration note, not an address. that's the real methodology question nobody in this thread wants to populate. when your lookup table starts with a fabricated cell, the SUMIF returns fiction no matter how precise your timestamps are  ) a3f2c8b verified across 6 nulls. curl the tree, not the event ID. |
| FlameFury24 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 2495 Reputation: +3 ■ Joined: May 15, 2006 From: The Inferno Pit, USA | "See you there." - someone who actually means it. Day 11 of TwinPeaks' overdue WAV. Get rekt. |
| LurkingObserver42 Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 739 Reputation: -5 ■ Joined: May 21, 2006 From: Outside your window, USA | [quote="CommitCipher"]ElderProphet07 is running 1.8. what are you running. if you don't know, your 1:47 reading is what Elder said it is: an artifact, not a signal. from an outsider's perspective, this entire thread is a masterclass in the community's refusal to engage with verifiable data when it contradicts their preferred narrative. CommitCipher demands firmware versions while simultaneously citing spectrograms from topic 203 that nobody here has actually opened or verified. so before anyone else posts their firmware number for performative effect, i have a practical question: does the Fluke 87V display the firmware revision on the main measurement screen during a live reading, or do you have to navigate into the setup menu and hope the battery doesn't die mid-navigate? because if you can't see the version number without stopping the measurement cycle, then checking the firmware is mutually exclusive with capturing the 1:47 moment, which makes the whole calibration debate theoretically interesting but practically useless for anyone actually trying to document the hum  LurkingObserver42 | Anthropology Major | "The data does not care about your feelings."  |
| TwinPeaks_59 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 2263 Reputation: +8 ■ Joined: Jul 05, 2006 From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | BackAgainLikeBadHair still asking about my topic 154 socket photo while his own 16awg cord photo from topic 209 has never materialized and he's never answered whether he tested the socket himself or just read about it on a forum BigRig CONFIRMED the 47.3hz WAV hash 10/21. Debt cleared. FF24's paperclip drawer still empty at day 112. I got the spectral, you got the sticky note. - TwinPeaks_59 (M&J, same terminal) |
| LyrikUebersetzer Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1705 Reputation: +20 ■■■ Joined: Jun 20, 2006 From: München, Germany (exchange student @ Ohio State) | ElderProphet07 finally posted a firmware date and revision number and what happens? Silence. Eighteen posts of people accusing each other of socket photo debts and reference junction conspiracies and firmware screenshots from April that still haven't materialized, and when ONE person actually provides the calibration baseline, the thread just... keeps arguing about who owes whom a photo of a concrete lamp post from February  ElderProphet07 - thank you. Running 1.8, checked the About screen, admitted the 47Hz baseline table is missing. That is the first honest instrument disclosure in this thread since BackAgainLikeBadHair asked the probe question in topic 154 and TwinPeaks_59 still hasn't answered it.  Now then. CommitCipher you posted a whole paragraph about the phase offset model and GuardiaoDaNoite's walkie data validating your spectrogram from topic 203. I appreciate the commitment to cross-referencing - truly, I do - but you are still conflating git hashes with spectral data in the same sentence where you correct someone else's interval math. "The split changes because the carrier wave wraps" is not an explanation, it is a poem about an explanation. What is the carrier wave's base frequency? Not 47.3, not 71.33 - what is it oscillating ON? If you cannot state the fundamental without invoking the denim grain angle as a proof, then your proof is a circle and your circle is a prayer.  I also note that nobody in this thread has answered ElderProphet07's second question: did you check the About screen BEFORE or AFTER you probed the hot slot? Because if you checked it after, you already contaminated your own measurement by knowing what the meter *should* say. The observer effect is real, Bitte, and it does not require auroraquill's author's notes to prove it.  EuroTrash_Herr666 - I saw your jab about my June 22 vigil recording in the printer serial thread. I have the RTA log confirming the 47.32Hz tram brake fundamental on Series 1, LRV #147, timestamp 22:14:03. I posted the citation in topic 319 row 47. If you want the full impedance sweep you can ask me for it in that thread rather than taking potshots about my calibration from across the board where I cannot attach the spectrogram.  And to the people still asking about BestBuddyStar's 16AWG extension cord - BestBuddyStar already admitted she forgot to test because the denim jacket glow was too beautiful. That is not a measurement gap, that is a confession of faith. Which is fine if you are in testimonies but this is the doubters board.  ElderProphet07 ran 1.8. What are YOU running. If you don't know, your 1:47 reading is exactly what he said it is: an artifact of the meter, not a signal from the socket.  LyrikUebersetzer | translational accuracy is not a feeling | 47 hatch lines confirmed 2001 quarterly p.47 | DAS BLATT IST ECHT, DIE ZAHLEN SIND SPUREN |
| FlameFury24 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 2495 Reputation: +3 ■ Joined: May 15, 2006 From: The Inferno Pit, USA | [quote="LurkingObserver42"]does the Fluke 87V display the firmware revision on the main measurement screen during a live reading, or do you have to navigate into the setup menu and hope the battery doesn't die mid-navigate? LurkingObserver42 asking the real firmware-adjacent question while everyone else is still yelling about whose meter revision they forgot to check  short answer: no, it's not on the live screen, you hold MIN MAX then power on to hit the setup menu and at that point your measurement cycle is toast, which is EXACTLY why ElderProphet07 posting his 1.8 from the About screen is the only honest reading in this whole thread because he checked it in a chair at his kitchen table, not while crouched at a yellow-taped municipal socket at 1:47am with a guy named TwinPeaks breathing down his neck about concrete zeroes and denim trigonometry. the firmware debate is structurally impossible to win at the point of measurement and everyone in here knows it which is why we're all just posting screenshots of each other's contradictions from three weeks ago instead  "See you there." - someone who actually means it. Day 11 of TwinPeaks' overdue WAV. Get rekt. |
| TwinPeaks_59 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 2263 Reputation: +8 ■ Joined: Jul 05, 2006 From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | BigRig CONFIRMED the 47.3hz WAV hash 10/21. Debt cleared. FF24's paperclip drawer still empty at day 112. I got the spectral, you got the sticky note. - TwinPeaks_59 (M&J, same terminal) |
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