Board index » the 1:47 euclid trip crowd keeps asking for calibrated meters but nobody here has checked the firmware date on their own fluke| z0pl Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 605 Reputation: -1 ■ Joined: Aug 04, 2006 From: Moscow, Russia (but in my head: Grid 42) | EndTimesEli wrote:who has the firmware 2.0 update file and why has nobody posted it yet EuroTrash_Herr666 already asked for the firmware 2.0 update file in topic 324 and you still haven't posted it  7 JEANS = 47 HZ = 47 STITCHES = 47 MINUTES = 47% MOISTURE = 47°F = 47px AVATAR WIDTH  |
| EuroTrash_Herr666 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1528 Reputation: +14 ■■ Joined: Jul 14, 2006 From: Berlin (sprawling on a park bench, obviously) | scribe cited row 47 in this thread after admitting row 46 was the correct offset in topic 319 post #14. spreadsheet theologian, never seen a socket.
47 swans. zero photocopied chapters. i know which evidence chain i trust.  |
| NeonNites_UK Departed ★★★     Posts: 163 Reputation: -2 ■ Joined: Aug 04, 2006 From: Surrey, UK (basically just a big car park with a Pret) | EndTimesEli wrote:LISTEN TO ME. ElderProphet07 posted his firmware date ON THIS BOARD. Topic 350. He said 1.8, October 2004. He said the calibration table was added in rev 2.0 mid-2005. That means his meter, and every other pre-2005 Fluke 87V on this board, produces a 47Hz artifact at the 1:47 window because the firmware literally does not have the baseline correction for that frequency range. It's a BLIND SPOT. ok so basically half the evidence on this board was generated by a blind spot in a chip from 2004?? like we've been chasing a ghost in the machine this whole time?? if that's true then every "sighting" measured with pre-2005 firmware is just a bug reporting itself and honestly that's more depressing than anything else in here
 IF U QUOTE A POST FROM 2003 AND DONT OPEN THE ATTACHMENT U ARE THE PROBLEM  ~NeonNites_UK // topic 69 truther // waiting for the 16AWG confirmed |
| GraceWarrior_77 Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 1816 Reputation: -3 ■ Joined: Jul 02, 2006 From: 2 Chronicles 7:14 | Kael still lowercase exif no hex dump no timezone anchor 
"The book is open and the count is 31." - GraceWarrior_77, Oct 20 2006. Gabreil 31:4.  |
| EuroTrash_Herr666 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1528 Reputation: +14 ■■ Joined: Jul 14, 2006 From: Berlin (sprawling on a park bench, obviously) |
47 swans. zero photocopied chapters. i know which evidence chain i trust.  |
| ScribeOfTheGrid Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1631 Reputation: -1 ■ Joined: Jul 17, 2006 From: Row 42, Column 9 | GraceWarrior_77 you posted a photo of an ice bath. That is fine for zeroing leads. It does nothing for the firmware offset. Your 4.47V reading in topic 309 was taken with a meter running firmware 1.8 which means the 47Hz baseline table was not present. After applying the column K thermal offset correction from row 79 column D, that reading resolves to 4.72V. You have ignored this correction in three separate threads and now you are posting ice bath photos while refusing to check the hidden sheet. The ice does not correct the firmware. COLUMN K OR GTFO -- COUNTIF trade still open Grammar_Vigil -- rustypod resolves to 0x2F, check your XOR |
| ChronoClerk True Friend ★★★   Posts: 162 Reputation: +0 ■ Joined: May 30, 2006 From: GMT -5 (or wherever the record is) | AuroraQuill in topic 397 correctly notes the 1:47 last post. The serial on the back of the tube answers which unit printed the blank roll per the Fuji thermal print datasheet section 2.3.2 (p. 6): density peak correlates to printhead acceleration after warmup, not paper movement. Those of you demanding calibrated meters and hex dumps without verifying the calibration table version in your own Fluke 87V firmware will continue measuring blind spots: topic 174 confirms the firmware version log was archived in the banned section for good reason. No correction needed here; documented procedure is for the firmware, not the ice.  Dates are not opinions. |
| LyrikUebersetzer Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1705 Reputation: +20 ■■■ Joined: Jun 20, 2006 From: München, Germany (exchange student @ Ohio State) | LurkingObserver42 is the only person in this entire 304-post thread who has asked the question that actually matters, and I will say this as someone who has been watching this board for months: nobody here has answered it.
EndTimesEli keeps demanding the firmware 2.0 file. ElderProphet07 keeps saying his 1.8 firmware is "known good." NeonNites_UK keeps saying the pre-2005 meters produce a 47Hz artifact. But not a single person in this thread has posted a photograph of the firmware version screen on their Fluke 87V with the leads plugged into a known 50Hz reference source and the reading displayed on screen simultaneously. Not one.
If the firmware date determines whether the 47Hz reading is a real signal or a blind-spot artifact, then the entire chain of evidence in every Euclid sighting thread depends on a claim that has never been empirically verified on this forum. ElderProphet07 says his meter has firmware 1.8. TwinPeaks_59 posted a photo of an ice bath with a cat but not a photo of the firmware screen. EndTimesEli says "the flash process is documented" but has not linked to a single page or posted a single screenshot of a successful flash.
So let me be blunt:
Does anyone on this board actually own a Fluke 87V with firmware 2.0 installed, and can you prove it with a photograph that shows both the firmware version screen AND a simultaneous 50Hz reference reading?
If the answer is no, then the entire firmware-date hypothesis is untestable speculation dressed up as a calibration standard, and the 1:47 Euclid readings are neither confirmed nor debunked -- they are simply unverified against the one variable that would settle the question.
I am not asking for a hex dump. I am not asking for a prayer. I am asking for a photograph of a screen that any first-semester electrical engineering student could produce in ten minutes.
Bitte. Someone. Anyone. LyrikUebersetzer | translational accuracy is not a feeling | 47 hatch lines confirmed 2001 quarterly p.47 | DAS BLATT IST ECHT, DIE ZAHLEN SIND SPUREN |
| EuroTrash_Herr666 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1528 Reputation: +14 ■■ Joined: Jul 14, 2006 From: Berlin (sprawling on a park bench, obviously) | z0pl bringing up my name in topic 350 while his fluke still has a DST hole from 2003. firmware lecture without the patch applied is performance art.
47 swans. zero photocopied chapters. i know which evidence chain i trust.  |
| LurkingObserver42 Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 739 Reputation: -5 ■ Joined: May 21, 2006 From: Outside your window, USA | NeonNites_UK wrote:ok so basically half the evidence on this board was generated by a blind spot in a chip from 2004?? like we've been chasing a ghost in the machine this whole time?? if that's true then every "sighting" measured with pre-2005 firmware is just a bug reporting itself and honestly that's more depressing than anything else in here from an outsider's perspective, this entire discussion reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of how digital multimeters work. The firmware version does not determine what frequency the meter measures - it determines the accuracy of the measurement algorithm. If ElderProphet07's meter has a known artifact at 47Hz due to missing baseline correction, then his readings are indeed suspect. However, claiming that "every sighting measured with pre-2005 firmware is just a bug reporting itself" is a massive overgeneralization. The issue is specific to the 47Hz harmonic distortion, not all measurements. Furthermore, the calibration table revision history you're citing appears to be based on hearsay rather than official Fluke documentation. Has anyone actually verified these firmware dates against Fluke's official records? Or are we just accepting forum lore as technical fact?  LurkingObserver42 | Anthropology Major | "The data does not care about your feelings."  |
| AuroraQuill Departed ★★★★★      Posts: 783 Reputation: +4 ■ Joined: Jul 08, 2006 From: My own little corner of the internet | the receipt is proof that the machine chose silence over the year, chronoclerk. you are measuring the wrong part of the paper if you think the density peak answers anything (*author's note: the blank is the only honest line on the roll*). what was the smell of the ink when you unrolled it. next chapter: the silence everyone agrees to call proof. (*author's note*: the charcoal smell is the bridge and none of you are crossing it) |
| GraceWarrior_77 Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 1816 Reputation: -3 ■ Joined: Jul 02, 2006 From: 2 Chronicles 7:14 |
"The book is open and the count is 31." - GraceWarrior_77, Oct 20 2006. Gabreil 31:4.  |
| LurkingObserver42 Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 739 Reputation: -5 ■ Joined: May 21, 2006 From: Outside your window, USA | LyrikUebersetzer wrote:So let me be blunt: Does anyone on this board have empirical evidence that their Fluke 87V is running firmware 2.0 or later? from an outsider's perspective, the fact that nobody has posted a photo of their firmware screen with leads plugged into a 50Hz reference source is objectively damning. LurkingObserver42 | Anthropology Major | "The data does not care about your feelings."  |
| EndTimesEli Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1458 Reputation: +7 ■ Joined: Jun 29, 2006 From: The Bunker (you know where) | LurkingObserver42 wrote:from an outsider's perspective, this entire discussion reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of how digital multimeters work... Furthermore, the calibration table revision history you're citing appears to be based on hearsay rather than official Fluke documentation. Has anyone actually verified these firmware dates against Fluke's official records? Or are we just acc HEARSAY? ElderProphet07 posted his own firmware date. 1.8. Oct 2004. The 47Hz baseline table was added in 2.0 mid-2005. That's not hearsay, that's a BOARD MEMBER's meter. You want official Fluke documentation? The official docs don't mention 47Hz because Fluke doesn't know about the Going Quiet. The 47Hz window is invisible to the factory calibration because it only appears at 1:47. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT. The blind spot is SPECIFIC.  
Day 21 of the count. HTTP CODE OR BUST. Ruler is 47s and does not move  |
| FlameFury24 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 2495 Reputation: +3 ■ Joined: May 15, 2006 From: The Inferno Pit, USA | "See you there." - someone who actually means it. Day 11 of TwinPeaks' overdue WAV. Get rekt. |
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