Board index » Aug 21 - truckstop diner radio off by 1.47 seconds on the wall clock :3| BigRigBeliever Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1819 Reputation: +6 ■ Joined: Jul 23, 2006 From: I-80, Mile Marker 267 | Pulled into a Love's outside Flagstaff about 4 hours ago. Weathered clock on the wall, one of those old round ones with the second hand that jumps instead of sweeps. Had my coffee, logbook open, waitin' on a dispatch. Radio on the counter - old AM/FM, wood cabinet, dial that looks like it survived the 70s  Ordered a BLT, looked up at the clock, then down at my watch. My G-Shock said 3:15. That wall clock said 3:13 and about 13 seconds. I counted the second hand - watched it hit the 12 at exactly 3:14 and 47 seconds on my G-Shock  Told the waitress "your clock's 1.47 seconds slow" and she just looked at me like I had three heads. Tipped her anyway  No Gabriel in the booth. No static on the AM band when I tuned through. Just a clock that's 1.47 seconds behind the world, and a radio that hummed at exactly 60Hz when I held my ear to the wood.  Over and out. hash matches, debt cleared - BigRigBeliever |
| GuardiaoDaNoite Departed ★★★★★     Posts: 530 Reputation: +0 ■ Joined: Jun 11, 2006 From: São Paulo, BR |
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| CommitCipher Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1478 Reputation: +13 ■■ Joined: May 27, 2006 From: In the diff of life | BigRigBeliever wrote:Told the waitress "your clock's 1.47 seconds slow" and she just looked at me like I had three heads. Did you check if the radio's internal oscillator feeds the clock or if they're separate circuits? Because a wall clock running 1.47 seconds off GPS time with a radio humming clean 60Hz is two independent time bases disagreeing by a factor that resolves to 1/0.47 = 2.127 - which is not a gear ratio I recognize from any standard synchronous motor clock. What make was the wall clock? If it's a Simplex or a National Time, the sync motor has a stamped Hz rating on the rotor housing. If it's a cheap quartz retrofit in an old wood case, the 1.47 is just a dying battery and the radio hum is the only signal worth logging. a3f2c8b verified across 6 nulls. curl the tree, not the event ID. |
| BigRigBeliever Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1819 Reputation: +6 ■ Joined: Jul 23, 2006 From: I-80, Mile Marker 267 | CommitCipher wrote:What make was the wall clock? If it's a Simplex or a National Time, the sync motor has a stamped Hz rating on the rotor housing. Breaker breaker CommitCipher - copy that on the hardware question, but you're askin' the wrong thing I didn't crawl behind the register to read the rotor housing. I'm a trucker, not an electrician. What I CAN tell you is the radio hummed at 60Hz clean - no wobble, no drift, just a pure note like Gabriel himself tuned that capacitor. And the clock was EXACTLY 1.47 seconds off. Not 1.5, not "about a second and a half" - my eyes tracked that jumping second hand across three full minutes of coffee sippin' and it stayed locked at 1.47 behind my G-Shock the whole time. You want voltage readings and make models, that's your lane. My lane is 18 wheels and watchin' the road for signs. And this here was a sign  Over and out. hash matches, debt cleared - BigRigBeliever |
| SakuraMirror Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 866 Reputation: -2 ■ Joined: Jul 11, 2006 From: Tokyo, Japan | CommitCipher wrote:Did you check if the radio's internal oscillator feeds the clock or if they're separate circuits? I am sorry but this is not proof of anything  Please forgive me for asking, but what is the supposed proof supposed to be? 
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| GuardiaoDaNoite Departed ★★★★★     Posts: 530 Reputation: +0 ■ Joined: Jun 11, 2006 From: São Paulo, BR |
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| CommitCipher Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1478 Reputation: +13 ■■ Joined: May 27, 2006 From: In the diff of life | BigRigBeliever wrote:And the clock was EXACTLY 1.47 seconds off. Not 1.5, not "about a second and a half" - my eyes tracked that jumping second hand across three full minutes and it stayed locked at 1.47 behind my G-Shock the whole time. BigRig i'm not saying it wasn't a sign, but 1.47 seconds locked across three minutes means the clock is running at a different *rate*, not just set wrong. if it was set wrong by 1.47s at minute zero it would drift further from GPS time as the minute hand advanced. but if it held the same 1.47s delta across 180 seconds of G-Shock time, that means the wall clock's quartz oscillator and your G-Shock's oscillator are synced to the same reference frequency and the offset is purely a *phase offset* from the last time they were both set to the same source. which means the clock's internal oscillator IS the radio's 60Hz hum, divided down through a synchronous motor or a PLL. the 1.47s is the carrier wave phase wrapping at a boundary. same pattern as the printer serial 0x2F. the mustard stain is the evidence  a3f2c8b verified across 6 nulls. curl the tree, not the event ID. |
| GuardiaoDaNoite Departed ★★★★★     Posts: 530 Reputation: +0 ■ Joined: Jun 11, 2006 From: São Paulo, BR | CommitCipher wrote:resolves to 1/0.47 = 2.127  1 divided by 0.47 is 2.127659574... you dropped decimals  someone counting in static but nobody checks the multimeter? my walkie shows 0.00 volts and tape recorder blank but abuela voice still in left ear only  FlameFury24 deleted that testimony night 48 - deletion is miracle proof they fear  over and out fiquem com Deus 
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| BigRigBeliever Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1819 Reputation: +6 ■ Joined: Jul 23, 2006 From: I-80, Mile Marker 267 | hash matches, debt cleared - BigRigBeliever |
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| BigRigBeliever Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1819 Reputation: +6 ■ Joined: Jul 23, 2006 From: I-80, Mile Marker 267 | hash matches, debt cleared - BigRigBeliever |
| GuardiaoDaNoite Departed ★★★★★     Posts: 530 Reputation: +0 ■ Joined: Jun 11, 2006 From: São Paulo, BR |
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| SakuraMirror Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 866 Reputation: -2 ■ Joined: Jul 11, 2006 From: Tokyo, Japan | CommitCipher wrote:Did you check if the radio's internal oscillator feeds the clock or if they're separate circuits? I am sorry but this is not proof of anything  Please forgive me for asking, but what is the supposed proof supposed to be? 
meditating on 71.33Hz just like MamaBear wants~ (^^) (GMT stamp at 19:04:12 or forget it  ) |
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