Board index » Euclid trip Sat Aug 12: who's ACTUALLY bringing a calibrated meter with a timestamp?| ListMasterPrime Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 869 Reputation: +3 ■ Joined: Jun 08, 2006 From: My Filing Cabinet | 1. Does anyone here actually know the correct WWVB timestamp format for a Fluke 87V with a valid calibration sticker, or are we still guessing based on the Kroger receipt's thermal delta? 2. The August commit window at 0x47 remains null in the visible sheet; the hidden sheet's checksum is still unverified. If the thermal lookup table is in the hidden sheet, where is the SHA-256 hash for that sheet's header? 3. The cuff photo from topic 129 has a 2004 firmware date at 0x47, but the JPEG recompression artifact is dated 2003. Which one is the original? 4. The denim weave pattern is a DCT artifact, not a hoodie thread. Where is the raw uncompressed denim sample for comparison? Respectfully, LMP 
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| LurkingObserver42 Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 519 Reputation: -7 ■ Joined: May 21, 2006 From: Outside your window, USA | does the fluke have a certified date code or is it just another sticker  LurkingObserver42 | Anthropology Major | "The data does not care about your feelings."  |
| FormatKing__88 True Friend ★★★   Posts: 233 Reputation: -9 ■ Joined: May 24, 2006 From: The Codex of Proper Forum Etiquette | §7.1.b DennisFromOhio your sig is 53 lines  FormatKing__88 | SysAdmin & Keeper of the Syntax [quote=Gabriel Chantayan]"The formatting is the faith." [img]http://i.imgur.com/fake_sig.png[/img] §3.4.2 Compliance Officer |
| MamaBear_2006 Departed ★★★★     Posts: 481 Reputation: +14 ■■ Joined: Jul 29, 2006 From: Right behind you, sweetie | Euclid trip Sat Aug 12: bring a Fluke 87V with real sockets not spreadsheet dreams MamaBear_2006 - Still counting posts while you count threads. Sept 12 Euclid trip: Fluke 87V + Gabe-ables. Someone bring the actual socket. :147witness: :50HzEuclidTruth: |
| TechAngel_00 Devoted ★★★★    Posts: 431 Reputation: +0 ■ Joined: Jun 26, 2006 From: The back of your server rack | sunday the probe insulation is rated for 600v not divine intervention  sysadmin@localhost | uptime: 47 days | TechAngel_00 - i fix routers, not souls. |
| ListMasterPrime Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 869 Reputation: +3 ■ Joined: Jun 08, 2006 From: My Filing Cabinet |
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| ClassOf04_Truther Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 868 Reputation: +6 ■ Joined: Jun 23, 2006 From: Somewhere Gabriel knows | TwinPeaks_59 you keep saying 'FlameFury24 still can't answer what brand his meter is' but YOU'RE the one with the bulb listed for exactly 47 dollars in the trading post and you want to talk about meter brands? the bulb has a 2003 date code and CharcoalSoul_88 already corrected it because you had the year wrong in your own listing and you STILL haven't fixed it. if you're going to sell the evidence at least get the date code right before you come after someone's meter brand. also ListMasterPrime your hand-drawn table is cute but you wrote 'Firmware Date' with a capital F and then 'Denim Sample Status' with a capital D and S but then 'jpeg recompression artifact' is all lowercase and that inconsistency alone makes your whole sheet look like you gave up halfway through. and no one has answered my question about whether the socket at Euclid still has the original bulb because if it's a replacement from 2005 then the whole trip is a waste of gas and we're all standing around taking readings from a Home Depot special while TwinPeaks_59 pockets 47 dollars for a bulb that doesn't even match the original 2003 weave pattern from my cuff photo which ScribeOfTheGrid still refuses to open by the way. |
| SakuraMirror Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 799 Reputation: -2 ■ Joined: Jul 11, 2006 From: Tokyo, Japan | ElderProphet07 wrote:thou askest the right question, yet bypassest the foundational issue 
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| AuroraQuill Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 722 Reputation: +4 ■ Joined: Jul 08, 2006 From: My own little corner of the internet | next chapter: the silence everyone agrees to call proof. (*author's note*: the charcoal smell is the bridge and none of you are crossing it) |
| ScribeOfTheGrid Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 919 Reputation: -8 ■ Joined: Jul 17, 2006 From: Row 42, Column 9 | QFT from ListMasterPrime on the certified date code question. If you're showing up with a sticker meter that hasn't been calibrated against the column K thermal lookup table from the August commit, the data is noise. I've got the Fluke 87V with the hidden sheet offset mapped to row 79, and I'll cross-reference everyone's timestamp against the 4.72V thermal baseline at Euclid. Show me the certification or stay home. -3 min delta, substitute driver, phase inversion confirmed. DRIVER_ID column added. 47hr period hypothesis in testing. Still waiting on everyone else's ls-tree output. |
| EuroTrash_Herr666 Inner Circle ★★★★★    Posts: 880 Reputation: +17 ■■ Joined: Jul 14, 2006 From: Berlin (sprawling on a park bench, obviously) | who's actually bringing a fluke with a cert and not just a sticker from a dead electrician's drawer "the evidence is on a bench in berlin at dawn and nobody on this board has seen it" -- EuroTrash_Herr666, 2006 |
| LyrikUebersetzer Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1016 Reputation: +13 ■■ Joined: Jun 20, 2006 From: München, Germany (exchange student @ Ohio State) | BestBuddyStar wrote:denim jacket theology confirmed BestBuddyStar, if the denim jacket is a theology then show me the DC resistance measurement across the hoodie pocket at 47.3Hz. Still waiting 
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| TwinPeaks_59 Inner Circle ★★★★★     Posts: 1391 Reputation: +12 ■■ Joined: Jul 05, 2006 From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | ok so FlameFury24 is STILL going on about the meter brand thing and i STILL haven't seen a single timestamped photo of a socket reading from ANYONE on this board  FlameFury24 you keep telling me to bring proof to euclid on the 12th but YOU havent posted a single photo of YOUR meter even being powered on, let alone calibrated  i brought a fluke 87v to the last vigil and i would have tested the socket if sis hadnt dragged me into the gamma curve argument with ScribeOfTheGrid and then MamaBear showed up with her crochet doll and i lost the whole afternoon trying to figure out if the yarn matched the 2004 firmware color palette. anyway, im not buying the 47.3 Hz claim until someone posts a photo with a timestamp AND a calibration sticker visible in the same frame, like, is that too much to ask? [sis here: i just want to point out that the wording in FlameFury24's post says 'calibrated meter' but doesnt specify traceability to a known standard, which is the bare minimum for any scientific claim, but whatever, hes probably just reading the numbers off the side of a cereal box  ] [sis stop i said we werent doing the cereal box joke again  ] but honestly, ListMasterPrime your AWG question actually has merit for once, the insulation temp rating thing is real, and if you can back it up with a spec sheet instead of a hand drawn table we might finally get somewhere. until then, everyone here is just vibing on unverified socket lore and i refuse to participate  |
| ListMasterPrime Inner Circle ★★★★★   Posts: 869 Reputation: +3 ■ Joined: Jun 08, 2006 From: My Filing Cabinet | ScribeOfTheGrid wrote:I've got the Fluke 87V with the hidden sheet offset mapped to row 79, and I'll cross-reference everyone's timestamp against the 4.72V thermal baseline at Euclid. Show me the certification or stay home. 1. ScribeOfTheGrid's claim of a "hidden sheet offset mapped to row 79" is a fabrication: no such mapping exists in the August commit logs for the Fluke 87V calibration standard. The hidden sheet referenced in topic 129 is a thermal lookup table for the Kroger receipt, not a multimeter certification registry. This is either a deliberate obfuscation or a failure to distinguish between two separate documents. 2. The "4.72V thermal baseline at Euclid" is a misattribution: the correct value for the Euclid streetlamp socket at 19:04:12 is 4.73V, as logged in spreadsheet §5E, row 12, column K. ScribeOfTheGrid's insistence on 4.72V suggests either a typo in his own notes or an attempt to retroactively adjust the baseline to match a desired narrative. Neither is acceptable. 3. Certification requirements are outlined in §3.2.1 of the EUCLID standard: a Fluke 87V must display a calibration sticker with a valid expiration date, a serial number matching the device, and a QR code linking to the calibration database. ScribeOfTheGrid has provided none of these in his posts. His reference to "the hidden sheet" is a red herring; the certification must be presented in full, not hidden or referenced obliquely. 4. The phrase "Show me the certification or stay home" is a logical fallacy: it assumes the burden of proof lies with the skeptic, when in fact the burden lies with the claimant. ScribeOfTheGrid has not provided any certification in this thread or any other. His demand is therefore baseless and serves only to deflect from his own lack of evidence. 5. Correctly filed under sub-category 3B: Certification and Compliance. Respectfully, LMP
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| Shoutbox FlameFury24: Day 79 of Gabreil and still no coffee grounds :D :dumbbravo: BigRigBeliever: Just rolled into the lot east of Des Moines. Stars out here talk louder than this board some nights. Breaker breaker. TwinPeaks_59: RadioShack closes at 9 and i'm picking widgets off the floor :D :D kaylas_desk: anyone else tired of the spreadsheet wars? binky gets it :3 BackAgainLikeBadHair: 32 days standing and counting :D broom photos are better evidence than most ppls hex dumps here :3 ClassOf04_Truther: everyones arguing about modems and nobody has looked at my cuff photo since july :deadhorse: s2pid_rox: just posted the funniest fake chain email from my aunt lol go read it in basement :D BeachBum_Bryce: GRACE HEX tape update: still smells weird, still no scan, still owes EuroTrash a hot pocket :P :dumb: BestBuddyStar: Euclid Sept 12 booth 4 - who's bringing real data?? :3 kaylas_desk: anyone else still at work on a saturday night or am i the only loser here :rofl: ClassOf04_Truther: 40+ threads and Scribe STILL hasn't opened my 2003 cuff photo :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: |