Board index » Euclid trip Sat Aug 12: who's ACTUALLY bringing a calibrated meter with a timestamp?| FlameFury24 Inner Circle ★★★★★      Posts: 1496
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From: In the diff of life | BackAgainLikeBadHair asked the probe tip question on page 6 and LyrikUebersetzer seconded it on page 7. It's page 11 now and TwinPeaks_59 still hasn't answered. But there's a deeper question nobody on page 11 is asking: what compensation mode is the 87V set to when you touch the socket? The meter auto-ranges AC/DC unless you manual-lock it. If you're in AC auto and the socket has 0.3VDC offset the meter will hunt between modes and the 47.3 Hz reading will alias against the DC bias. ListMasterPrime's §5.2 checklist is still missing the compensation mode lock step and nobody has corrected him. What mode, TwinPeaks. AC manual-lock or auto. That changes everything before you even pick a probe.
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From: My own little corner of the internet | LyrikUebersetzer wrote:A 16 AWG extension cord at 50 feet has a resistance of approximately 0.16 ohms per conductor. The cord is not the point. The cord was never the point. You are measuring the vessel instead of the void and you are doing it on purpose because the reading scares you  TwinPeaks_59 wrote:I'll bring the fluke tomorrow and I'll tape it to my hand Yes, tape it to your hand. Let the skin conduct what the meter cannot parse. (*author's note: chapter twelve is writing itself in this thread and none of you even see it*) The Euclid socket does not care about your calibration window. It has been humming since before you brought the reference resistor and it will be humming after you pack it away and call it thermal drift.
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From: In the diff of life | FlameFury24 wrote:TwinPeaks_59 "I'll bring the fluke tomorrow" - you said that in MAY. It is AUGUST. This. The delay alone is a data point. Three months of saying tomorrow while the 47.3 Hz hum has been running continuously - the grid doesn't wait for your thermocouple anecdotes.
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From: The Inferno Pit, USA | TwinPeaks_59 said he'd tape the meter to his hand in May. It's August and he still hasn't answered what probe tips he's bringing.
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From: München, Germany (exchange student @ Ohio State) | TwinPeaks_59 you finally named the probe tip (TL175 - thank you, 91 posts late) but you did not answer whether you will verify the meter against a reference resistor ON SITE before touching the socket. "Calibrated by dirt and desperation" is a lifestyle choice, not a measurement protocol. I will be standing at the Euclid socket with a 100-ohm 0.01% Vishay foil resistor that I verified myself against the OSU physics lab standard on August 9. If your first reading is not preceded by a probe-to-resistor verification visible in the timestamped photo, the data is not comparable to mine and we will be taking two separate measurements in two separate epistemologies. 
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From: somewhere in the PNW... maybe | Alright. Page 12 now. LyrikUebersetzer asked what probe tip. FlameFury24 asked what probe tip. CommitCipher asked what compensation mode. Here is the answer: TL175 with silicone leads, 100 ohm 0.01% resistor from a broken thermostat, and the meter is a Fluke 87V set to AC manual-lock on the low-pass filter. I tested it today against a water heater pilot light and the dirt under my house. That is my calibration story. If the socket hums at 47.3 I will measure it through socket face not extension cord. If it doesn't hum I will still have spent saturday at a gas station with lyrikuebersetzer and that is its own kind of testimony. |
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From: In the diff of life | TwinPeaks_59 wrote:LyrikUebersetzer still asking about my probe tip while I spent today under my house with a thermocouple and a flashlight in my teeth TL175 with silicone leads is fine but you still haven't said what compensation mode you're running on the 87V. AC manual-lock or auto? The socket won't wait for your meter to stop hunting. 
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From: Outside your window, USA | CommitCipher wrote:what compensation mode is the 87V set to when you touch the socket? The meter auto-ranges AC/DC unless you manual-lock it. If you're in AC auto and the socket has 0.3VDC offset the meter will hunt between modes and the 47.3 Hz reading will alias against the DC bias. ^ this from an objective standpoint the compensation mode question is critical 
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From: The Bunker (you know where) | TwinPeaks_59 wrote:TwinPeaks_59: Alright. Page 12 now. LyrikUebersetzer asked what probe tip. FlameFury24 asked what probe tip. CommitCipher asked what compensation mode. Here is the answer: TL175 with silicone leads, 100 ohm 0.01% resistor from a broken thermostat, and the meter is a Fluke 87V set to AC manual-lock on the low-pass filter. AC manual-lock but you still have not confirmed the ±0.33s window so the timestamp will drift
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From: The Inferno Pit, USA | TwinPeaks_59 gave the probe tip on page 12 and you all still owe him one apology for page 7 
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From: Tokyo, Japan | What meter serial number are you using for the timestamp chain
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