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ListMasterPrime keeps saying column K is "correctly filed under sub-category 3B" which is a statement about paperwork but not about measurement methodology. The deadline is today and I have asked this before in topic 319 but nobody answered :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

§7.2 of EUCLID specifies the thermal decay offset for column K at 0x47 but does NOT specify :dumb: :dumb:

1) what probe type was used for the ambient reference measurement <-- THIS IS THE QUESTION nobody has answered, not once, not in any of the three threads where column K gets cited as a gotcha against someone else's reading :deadhorse: :deadhorse:
2) whether the ambient reference was taken in the same room or at the socket face itself
3) whether the time constant of the probe is documented anywhere in the August commit or if we are all expected to take ScribeOfTheGrid's word for it after the row 79 incident

ScribeOfTheGrid - you claimed row 79 was the socket address. I verified the actual spreadsheet. Row 79 says "temp sensor calibration pending." That is not a socket address. That is a NOTE TO SELF that you passed off as evidence. So when you tell me column K row 47 has the correct thermal offset I will believe it when I see the probe manufacturer and the ambient reference methodology attached :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

BestBuddyStar - your Fluke 87V photo has a denim jacket sticker covering half the screen. Is the reading actually 1.47 or is that sticker covering the decimal that would tell us :P :P :P

Where is the thermocouple type, people? K-type? J-type? T-type? This is basic thermometry. The entire column K offset calculation collapses if the probe and ambient reference are unspecified. Danke. :beer: :beer:

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ScribeOfTheGrid still on row 45 like Aug 6 never happened :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

"the hash of nothing is still a hash" - ScribeOfTheGrid, topic 1329, 1306, 1628, 1742, and his own column K :dumbbravo:
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FlameFury24 wrote:ScribeOfTheGrid you're still citing row 45. You admitted row 46 was the correct thermal offset in topic 319. I have the screenshot of YOU saying it. Topic 319, your post, clear as day. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


FlameFury24 the screenshot you have is from topic 319 before the August 11 commit patched the thermal lookup table :P row 45 is the PRE-PATCH reference, row 46 is POST-PATCH for the 32-minute clock drift. you need to update your screenshot folder :rofl:

CommitCipher wrote:ScribeOfTheGrid column K row 47 was blank in your August commit the same way your methodology is blank now


row 47 being blank IS the data point, CommitCipher. blank cells in column K carry meaning when cross-referenced against the hidden sheet checksum. did you even open the .ods or are you reading the HTML preview like a savage :dumb:

A screenshot of an OpenOffice Calc spreadsheet showing column K with rows 44-50 visible. Row 45 has a value 4.72 highlighted in yellow, row 46 has a value 4.25 highlighted in green, and row 47 is entirely blank with a red border. The formula bar at the top shows =IF(ISBLANK(K47),"SEE SHEET 3",K47).

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LyrikUebersetzer wrote:ScribeOfTheGrid - you claimed row 79 was the socket address. I verified the actual spreadsheet. Row 79 says "temp sensor calibration pending." That is not a socket address. That is a NOTE TO SELF that you passed off as evidence. So when you tell me column K row 47 has the correct thermal offset I will believe it w


finally someone who understands basic unit analysis. counting even matters :D :awesome: :cheers: :dance: :ninja:
where is the actual probe type for column K ambient reference :wtf: :wtf: :dumb: :rolleyes: :deadhorse:

A thermocouple probe (type T, labeled 'COPPER-CONSTANTAN' in small print) resting across an open textbook titled 'Principles of Thermodynamic Measurement', wire trailing toward a wall socket

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1. Row 79 column K is not in EUCLID §7.2.

2. It is in sub-category 3B: Household Deeds and Related Correspondence, correctly filed under 'Thermal Void Kiosk Receipt - Japanese characters 零電力 47Hz - timestamp 01:47 glitching slightly.'

3. Correctly filed under sub-category 3B.

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ScribeOfTheGrid wrote:row 47 being blank IS the data point, CommitCipher. blank cells in column K carry meaning when cross-referenced against the hidden sheet checksum. did you even open the .ods or are you reading the HTML preview like a savage :dumb:


if the blank cell is the data then what is the actual value for the thermal offset scribe?? you cant just say 'blank means something' and then not tell us what it means. like row 47 is either the offset value or its not and you keep hiding behind sheet 3 when its sheet 2 that has the real column K data. post the actual cell value instead of the formula that says SEE SHEET 3 like a choose your own adventure book

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LyrikUebersetzer wrote:§7.2 of EUCLID specifies the thermal decay offset for column K at 0x47 but does NOT specify :dumb: :dumb:

1) what probe type was used for the ambient reference measurement <-- THIS IS THE QUESTION nobody has answered


1. Probe type is not optional metadata.

2. 0x47 is not a thermal offset; it is a hexadecimal ASCII 'G' and therefore a category error.

3. Correctly filed under sub-category 3B.

A close-up of a thermocouple probe (type T, labeled 'COPPER-CONSTANTAN') resting on a crumpled Euro-style thermal paper receipt with Japanese characters 零電力 47Hz faintly visible, timestamp 01:47.

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LyrikUebersetzer wrote:ScribeOfTheGrid - you claimed row 79 was the socket address. I verified the actual spreadsheet. Row 79 says "temp sensor calibration pending." That is not a socket address. That is a NOTE TO SELF that you passed off as evidence.


FINALLY someone said it :awesome: :awesome: :awesome: i've been sitting on that row 79 thing since april and nobody listened because i attached it to my crochet tension correlation data and everyone just went :wtf: about the yarn instead of the numbers :rolleyes: - ((sis STOP bringing up the yarn, they're never gonna take that seriously and you know it, the numbers were good but the medium was wrong)) [the medium was RELEVANT, the cotton shrinkage at 47 degrees matches the same thermal coefficient as the column K offset, i proved it with the gauge block measurements!!] - (she did actually measure this with calipers, i was there, it was weird but the math held up) - ANYWAY the point is LyrikUebersetzer you're the first person in 4 months who actually verified the cell instead of taking Scribe's word and i respect that even if it took you until the filing deadline to get there :peace: :peace:

ScribeOfTheGrid wrote:row 47 being blank IS the data point


sure and my dad's truck being clean IS the detail that means i spent 20 minutes scrubbing bug guts off the grille instead of reading your .ods file :rofl: blank means you didn't fill it in Scribe, it doesn't mean you were hiding a secret message unless you can prove the 0x47 checksum resolves to something other than null :dumbbravo: - (bro can we please not bring dad's truck into a firmware argument, it's undignified) - [dignity is for people who aren't posting on a forum about a man who may or may not have fixed a toaster with his mind, we left dignity at the door]

also hey LyrikUebersetzer what thermocouple did you use for your probe shot? that type T looks legit but the bead junction seems exposed for a wall socket reading - my sister wants to know if you did the ice bath zero reference or just trusted the meter offset :3 :3

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ScribeOfTheGrid you're STILL on row 45 vs row 46 in topic 377 like it's august 6 and you never admitted the delta in topic 363 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: you conceded to row 46 with the 32-minute clock drift patch excuse but now you're back on row 45 like FlameFury24 doesn't have the screenshot of you saying EXACTLY what you said. pick a row and stay there before you ask anyone else for cell references :dumbbravo: :dumbbravo: and while you're at it maybe address my 2003 cuff photo attachment that shows the loose thread weave at 47 tpi which is the SAME count as the printer serial and the pole flicker but you've been ignoring it since april :spitfire: :spitfire:

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ScribeOfTheGrid Aug 11 patch excuse doesn't explain topic 277 from Aug 14 :dumbbravo: :dumbbravo:

A screenshot of two forum posts side by side: ScribeOfTheGrid's post from topic 319 dated August 10 saying 'row 46 is the correct thermal offset' next to his post from topic 277 dated August 14 citing 'row 45 thermal offset'. Both are timestamped and circled in red. The date August 11 is highlighted

"the hash of nothing is still a hash" - ScribeOfTheGrid, topic 1329, 1306, 1628, 1742, and his own column K :dumbbravo:
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Still no answer on the probe type for the column K ambient reference. ListMasterPrime - you claim it is correctly filed under sub-category 3B. What thermocouple classification was used for the reference measurement at the time of filing, or did you file a number without a unit again?

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LyrikUebersetzer wrote:§7.2 of EUCLID specifies the thermal decay offset for column K at 0x47 but does NOT specify :dumb: :dumb:

1) what probe type was used for the ambient reference measurement <-- THIS IS THE QUESTION nobody has answered


What exact model of cassette recorder are you using to capture the 1:47 voice, and what is the tape speed setting in mm/s? :confused: :confused: :confused:

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LyrikUebersetzer wrote:§7.2 of EUCLID specifies the thermal decay offset for column K at 0x47 but does NOT specify :dumb: :dumb:

1) what probe type was used for the ambient reference measurement <-- THIS IS THE QUESTION nobody has answered


1. Probe type is not optional metadata.

2. 0x47 is not a thermal offset; it is a hexadecimal ASCII 'G' and therefore a category error.

3. Correctly filed under sub-category 3B.

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^ FlameFury24 has the receipts and Scribe still dodging

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